Gott Mit Uns: Open Letter to Atheists and Theists

[TheShadow.]

-sighs- Ok. Let me try this again. If something created the universe, it knows everything that is in this realm it has made. The same way if I programmed a computer game, I would know all the rules, objects and reasons within this world I have created. Everything in my world would have a reason whether for aesthetic or support or whatever. If there is a god, as you say that has created everything than just like the computer programmer, he too would know the inner workings of our existence, why we do what we do, why there are so many stars in the sky. Everything! Unless your believe in God is some form of a Spinoza God or a cosmic child playing with blocks for my argument let's just focus on a somewhat intelligent creator. Now this being true NO you cannot think for too long without hitting the barrier of a God because our existence cannot be random. It can't be chance when some divine creator is the reason for everything. Sure you can delve into science and why evolution happens or why atoms react the way they do but in the end their reason for doing the things, you can enjoy philosophy and ponder why things are but you will always know they do is because "God made them that way".

Why would I believe that? The only way God would have total control over the universe is if he did write it on some sort of super computer, and then did not make any provision for randomness in it.

If I wrote a game that made certain decisions based on how many particles a detector had counted in the previous fraction of time I would not know exactly what was going to happen, and the more randomness I built into it the less I would actually know about all those details you want to insist I believe God knows.

Just because I believe in God does not mean that "God made them that way is the perfect answer to any question. What if God wants us to understand not just that he did something, but why he did it? Simply knowing he did it would then be only the first step on our path to knowledge, and would force us to ask questions that science blithely ignores.

No.. it's just that there are more brands and flavors of God and Gods than there are brands of Rice-a-Roni. It's too tedious to try and argue every one of them. However a large majority of believers in a deity believe it to be omniscient so it's a safe place to start.

It isn't safe, it is just easy, and that simply makes you lazy. And the fact that you cannot even admit that shows that oyu are essentially no better than a theist who simply says "God made it that way."

"Hey! These things called stem cells are great and could really help us one day!" "NO! That is an afront to the lord! Banned!"

Wow, yet the proudly atheistic government of Sweden is insisting that scientists consider the feelings and dignity of plants before conducting research into ways to improve their health and food value. So again you are wrong, it is not a belief in God that holds us back, it is stupidity.

What exactly are you saying here? That atheists are just as capable of evil things? Of course they are, we are all humans. However there is a myth that the rules of religions such as Christianity or Islam are unique and their follows believe their morals to be divinely inspired and good. When they are not. All I was doing was showing that no religion is not where we get our morals from.

Those so called myths are not based on the religion or teachings of the prophets, but upon man's basic desire to do evil. That is the simple fact you are ignoring. Or, perhaps because you do not believe in God, you reject the idea of evil also, which just makes you a fool.