I've never understood the "hit me with something uintil I'm physically damaged" thing, but to each their own. I for one don't do the caning thing. Bare hand on the other hand (no pun intended) is great. Both as punishment and as pleasure. No reason something can't be both!

"My sub seems to love it ---she likes the old fashion over the knee bare hand on bare ass the best. And has orgasms just from the spanking."

Have to admit Rabbit1, now you've gone and made me jealous. Something to add to my "things to do" list: have a girl orgasm from a spanking. So I guess that means today has already been semi-productive. :-)