my first time with another person face to face was described in my recent blog entry... where my Almost-Master placed nipple clamps on me and whipped me with His belt (among other things). Before that, we had played with ice and with me inflicting light pain on myself (nipple and labia pinches) through webcams. On my own... putting a belt around my neck to simulate a collar and leash and getting so turned on by the sight (and yes, i do realize how dangerous that was, and have since been forbidden to do anything of the sort as part of my rules), clothespins on nipples ... but there truly is such a difference between self-inflicted pain, and that which comes from Another's hand.