Education... where is it these days?

[kalitat]

Thank you both for your opinions and thoughts. It is something that has really given me pause to look back at my own actions. Looking back, I do agree that brattiness has become a badge of honor and it's easy for me to get caught up in the "outdoing" of another or travel travel along in the mahem.
There is a line between silliness and regular humor.
I was going to say perhaps there should be more mentoring in the room for newbies. I would have appreciated that.
But then I look at MY personal responsibilities as a member of chat. As LW and delia have mentioned here are rules and guidelines, there are forums, there are so many outlet that are available for the people who WANT to learn. To say I didn't know shouldn't be an excuse. To say mentor me then shouldn't be an excuse. To say it's the admins job shouldn't be an excuse.
Echoing the posts before me, we are responsible for making chat what we want it to be, if that means stepping up and hurting some feelings then so be it. Yeah, it's gonna suck, I hate it when people are pissed at me. But I will step up and do my part for it to be a chat room I want to be a part of and that the room fun times is there for a reason.
Personally, I feel LW's words should referered to with the rules as they are just as important. Oops caught myself there, it is in the rules, the rule of respect.

[kalitat]

I was going to say perhaps there should be more mentoring in the room for newbies. I would have appreciated that.
But then I look at MY personal responsibilities as a member of chat. As LW and delia have mentioned here are rules and guidelines, there are forums, there are so many outlet that are available for the people who WANT to learn. To say I didn't know shouldn't be an excuse. To say mentor me then shouldn't be an excuse. To say it's the admins job shouldn't be an excuse.
Echoing the posts before me, we are responsible ....
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This statement was originally in reference to chat only. The more I read through the following responses the more I believe it should have been refered to the library in general. Yes mentoring would be helpful, but as has been stated there is no standard and there will not be an agreement on a standard.
My original point was of self responsibility. In that those who truly want to learn have the resources available. It is a newbies responsibility to separate the chaff from the grain and decide for ourselves our personal standards.

[Ozme52]

This statement was originally in reference to chat only. The more I read through the following responses the more I believe it should have been refered to the library in general. Yes mentoring would be helpful, but as has been stated there is no standard and there will not be an agreement on a standard.
My original point was of self responsibility. In that those who truly want to learn have the resources available. It is a newbies responsibility to separate the chaff from the grain and decide for ourselves our personal standards.

That's right. You too would rail and complain (or just leave) if you were bound by a set of rules you didn't like. I remember, elsewhere, where a newbie couldn't participate in chat conversations until they had been a member and online, for a certain number of tens of hours. Another where newbies were only allowed in certain rooms. And another where experienced doms were kept separated from the new subs while the chatroom owners did their own "winnowing of the chaff".

[kalitat]

That's right. You too would rail and complain (or just leave) if you were bound by a set of rules you didn't like. I remember, elsewhere, where a newbie couldn't participate in chat conversations until they had been a member and online, for a certain number of tens of hours. .

No I wouldn't, I would consider it training.

[Ozme52]

No I wouldn't, I would consider it training.

Not to quibble, but I must... lol, even trainees mostly 'do" rather than mostly watch.