Education... where is it these days?

[The Lord Winter]

The fault, imo, is that LW faults all of us first for not agreeing with his opinion. Your logic is fallacious because the order of posting lends no priority to who is opining and who is claiming fault. LW gives us a "hard and fast" set of definitions and defends them as correct. That means he espouses them as truth, not opionion, and that means Dawg's statement of fault is in fact, correct. Now I personally don't agree with much that Dawg espouses, but there is rarely an arguement because he is clearly professing his opinions and not proposing a set of truths to be universally adopted.

My very first arguments with Sir Russell and others, (mostly resolved now) all revolve around their offering up such definitions and professing them as absolute and irrefutable... all of which left me "outside" of the lifestyle.

First come the titles and labels, next come your kinks. What will happen if someone says your particular kink (whatever it might be) is out of bounds, too dangerous, or not to be "permitted" by good kinksters everywhere... because invariably, that comes next.

Oz, perhaps you should read my original post very carefully. I clearly stated in said post that I was questioning the lack of organized education on the site. Granted, I used examples, but others on the board made the discussion into what it is, a debate upon definitions, by questioning my examples specifically, and attempting to shoot down the entire notion of ANY education based upon a handful of examples that I myself chose to use instead of looking at the broader picture that I painted with my carefully chosen words.

As for the notion of difficulty in a consensus that you referred to earlier... I'll gladly concede that it WILL be difficult. I'll also counter that with the point that no thorough consensus is ever reached without difficulty. It requires much time, thought, effort, and discussion. As to the potential impossibility of it? Things are only impossible because we choose to believe them to be.

The definitions themselves, of course I'm going to defend my own beliefs. Would you do any less?

As for fault, the only thing I'm faulting anyone here for is being complacent, and not giving more back to the community by attempting to take a greater role in an already great site.

[Ozme52]

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