Interesting. Chat changes... not big changes on the surface, but, as I see it, significant changes in philosophy.

Then, I find this thread.

The observant individual has to wonder if the two are related. Personally, I think so, but what I think does not matter; this is not my living room to manage, it is someone else's. If I decide to come here, I consent, by coming here, to their management, no matter what that is. If I do not like their management, I should not come here.

The OP has, he says, a problem with lack of manners. Yet, reading the original post brings the idea of every unowned sub bowing to every Dom/me (claimed or real, matters not) that strolls into the chat. I personally despise that idea. Subs are NOT, in my view, a lower class of human and I recoil sharply (and occasionally dangerously, in person) at that concept.

More conversation happens... and kudos to delia for very astutely pointing out that "However, the only people we can control are ourselves & our reactions." Well said, delia. How I do wish that everyone understood the total global nature of your statement.

None the less, it appears to me action has been taken. "Immature" conversation is not to be tolerated. BDSM conversation is the order of the day. This results in a lot of "what toy would you rather use/have used?" questions and discussion, and I fervently hope that all participants get a great deal of good from those discussions. I fear, however, that it will come by the sacrifice of the community that was the chatroom frequenters. I believe I have already seen harbingers of that coming true.

Personally, I tend to conduct myself with my girl on a very instinctive level, thus planning which toy (or tool) to use is simply not part of the picture. When it is, or when that sort of conversation would be beneficial to me, I certainly will know where to come to get that reference.

Be well,

Gear