Quote Originally Posted by leo9 View Post
The basic theory of greenhouse gas driven global warming does not depend on “secret” data or complicated formulae. The data are all in the public domain, and anyone with the patience can crunch the numbers and see what comes out. And over the decades a great many people have, and got the same answers, which is why they believe it. No politics, no conspiracy: it just works.
Sorry! You can not say that. Sure temperatures exist outside the scientific community. However, there is a huge but here.

The preponderance of data itself precludes any one person from selecting the same set of data as any other person. All of the climate models are based on a "complicated formulae". If the auther of the report hides his data and the manner in which it was "processed" than his experiment can not be duplicated. In the case of the accepted "experts" on this subject they did both of those things, hide the data and the formula.
Now as to also creating a program that results in the same conclusion. Since the data points are being "selected" and the formula to "process" the data is being "created" drawing the conclusion you want is an essentially forgone conclusion.

The revelations regarding Manchester have done nothing more than to call their conclusions into question. And to reveal that the models are largely contrived.

Perhaps many people have come to the same conclusion but why then are these same people simply pooh-poohing the downward trend of temperatures in recent history? Why is the issue of the quantity of solar radiation escaping from the planet at levels greater than the alarmists postulate, based on greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere.
Seems like the planet is cooling itself!