Quote Originally Posted by Saheli View Post
This is a very interesting discussion...I have to say I've never even considered whether suicide should be allowed. But to me, that is the very last bit of control we have. I mean, someone can take away everything else, but no matter the circumstances, I still have the power to kill myself...unless of course, I'm being watched and have nothing to do it with... So my immediate thought is that while I don't necessarily condone suicide, I think that to take away that right from someone is so extremely cruel that I'm not sure whether I believe it should be done. I know that some people use suicide as a cry for help, not really wanting to do it, or partly wanting it but just wishing the circumstances would change moreso than wanting to die. But the level of desperation you have to come to in order to be serious about suicide is so low that to take the only option away just ...I don't even know how to word it. I don't know how many of you have ever been to the point where you wanted to die because you felt that was the only way to get out of a situation, because looking ahead you felt there was nothing you could do to make it better and could not bear the idea of going through it day by day. There isn't much lower you can go. If someone wants to commit suicide, they should have that right. As far as the point ian made about money, yes it might be considered an insult...I get that. But if a prisoner is dead then money is saved too, because if the suicide wasn't committed then the total cost would be higher, wouldn't it?

If someone is desperate enough, they will find a way to die, whether suicide is allowed or not. What is the harm in allowing them the choice?
I think you have your wires crossed a little, i agree partialy to what you say but we are not talking about the man on the street, we are talking about people that have murdered someone else. Why the hell should they get an easy exit from life, the person that they killed didn't want to be dead, and i doubt if he wanted to comit ssuicide. To hell with a murderers last right, he forfieted his last right when the courts gave him his only human right, and that was to live and not face the death penalty. The man on the street, well it is as you say his one real right he has left, and that is to cop out when the going gets tough, it is a fact that most suicides are a cry for help gone wrong, there are less painful and other ways to get help without terminating your life.

Regards ian 2411