Sexual Orientation and Military Service

[IAN 2411]

I find it sad that gays are still treated as second class citizens in most "Free" countries around the world.

I'm not a soldier, never fought in battle, so I cannot speak for the trust that one must have when fighting in the front lines. I know that the Canadian military is fighting currently in Afghanistan (yup, we have an army too ~15 000 people) with no restriction of sexual orientation, and there has not been a single story about a problem arising from someone being gay.

Secondly, not all army personel are on the front lines. If you're known to be gay, you can do anything, including drive a truck, be an interpretor, be a medic, anything! How is that just? Why don't they kick out the known Muslims off the army because it'll make things easier too? Call it the 'Don't pray don't tell' rule.

I know what it feels like to be a second class citizen, my family moved from that country to Canada for a lot of reasons, a better life was the primary concern. I know how it is when positions and possibilities are denied just because of my label, and I will never accept that another group go through what I did.

No; you have that slightly wrong, in the UK gays have the same rights as a vanilla person. Two married lesbians can adopt a child stating that they are a family, i have to say that it goes against the grain for some bigots, but the equality laws are what the UK abides by.

Regards ian 2411

[Lion]

No; you have that slightly wrong, in the UK gays have the same rights as a vanilla person. Two married lesbians can adopt a child stating that they are a family, i have to say that it goes against the grain for some bigots, but the equality laws are what the UK abides by.

Regards ian 2411

I said most, not all. I am proud to be in a country that allows gays to have all the rights as everyone else.

Although, from what I read, gay marraige isn't yet allowed there. Everything else, thankfully, is. (adoption, military, protection against hate)

[DuncanONeil]

Gays may adopt in the US!

I said most, not all. I am proud to be in a country that allows gays to have all the rights as everyone else.

Although, from what I read, gay marraige isn't yet allowed there. Everything else, thankfully, is. (adoption, military, protection against hate)

[DuncanONeil]

How do you protect against hate??

I said most, not all. I am proud to be in a country that allows gays to have all the rights as everyone else.

Although, from what I read, gay marraige isn't yet allowed there. Everything else, thankfully, is. (adoption, military, protection against hate)

[Lion]

How do you protect against hate??

Hate speech is illegal in Canada. Our freedom of speech does not give someone in the media/or any political party to write or claim that Muslims/Gays/Jews/Blacks/group defined by religion, race, sexual orientation, and age, ruin the fabric of the society, or that their acts do.

From the platform of the Texas Republican Party:

Homosexuality - We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases.

Claims like this, for a party platform is outlawed in Canada. Protection against hate. Hope this helped you understand the definition of the term now.

And personally, I think the platform that the Texas Republican Party is taking on homosexuality is nonsense. Feels like 1960s, instead of blacks, it's gays. Claims that are backed by nothing but idiotic assumptions and bigoted views.

[mkemse]

Hate speech is illegal in Canada. Our freedom of speech does not give someone in the media/or any political party to write or claim that Muslims/Gays/Jews/Blacks/group defined by religion, race, sexual orientation, and age, ruin the fabric of the society, or that their acts do.

From the platform of the Texas Republican Party:


Claims like this, for a party platform is outlawed in Canada. Protection against hate. Hope this helped you understand the definition of the term now.

And personally, I think the platform that the Texas Republican Party is taking on homosexuality is nonsense. Feels like 1960s, instead of blacks, it's gays. Claims that are backed by nothing but idiotic assumptions and bigoted views.

And I wonder what would happen in any Texas election if the race(s) were so close that the winner won by viture of Gay, Lesbian or TG votes, may then it would make the Republican retinnk their views of their Platform, don't laught it could happen alot of reacesNation wide recently have been close and have been decided by a paricualt group in those states

It is also intresesting that Texas has had more State Executinos of Inmates then ANY other State in the Union of the last decade, butthat is for a whole differentthread

[DuncanONeil]

I very specifically asked how you protect against "hate" You come back with the arificial construct of "hate speech". The artificial construct of "hate speech" falls into the same category of "sexual harassment" and "rape" - pre DNA. You have to prove you did not do it. And even then you never really get out from under when you do prove that you did not.

Hate speech is illegal in Canada. Our freedom of speech does not give someone in the media/or any political party to write or claim that Muslims/Gays/Jews/Blacks/group defined by religion, race, sexual orientation, and age, ruin the fabric of the society, or that their acts do.

From the platform of the Texas Republican Party:


Claims like this, for a party platform is outlawed in Canada. Protection against hate. Hope this helped you understand the definition of the term now.

And personally, I think the platform that the Texas Republican Party is taking on homosexuality is nonsense. Feels like 1960s, instead of blacks, it's gays. Claims that are backed by nothing but idiotic assumptions and bigoted views.

[DuncanONeil]

You assume they are bigots! Yes, assume! You take one piece of information. The objection and determine an entire raison d'etre behind that objection.

No; you have that slightly wrong, in the UK gays have the same rights as a vanilla person. Two married lesbians can adopt a child stating that they are a family, i have to say that it goes against the grain for some bigots, but the equality laws are what the UK abides by.

Regards ian 2411