This thread will inevitably play out like the other hundred or so similar threads on this forum and nobody is going to be a step closer to convincing anyone else of the rightness of their cause.
People kill and murder and lust for power and they use every reason and justification for it. People commit acts of base brutality and corruption; betray trust and duty under the cover of any organisation. To single out any one or any one group and say that it is worse or better than any other is a simplistic knee jerk reaction that is the same as saying the bad guys wear black hats.
this will inevitably go back and forth about fact versus faith and whether miracles really exist or how solid theories are and by the end of it all we will have proven is that, when it comes to these matters, there is not a lot a lot of difference between the extremists at both ends of the scale and the wise person will do well to trust neither.