squirting orgasms.

[symphony]

I’m sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. But I’m curious, what on earth is going on there lol?

Do they actually happen or are they something that has been made up/greatly exaggerated by the porn industry?

Can anyone do it or is it quite rare?

How does it physically work!?

ty for info

[skittish doe]

Although I am not personally able to achieve this, I have heard of women who can. I have talked to a couple of (believable) women who claim the ability and I have also heard it from an (equally trustworthy) man telling me about his ex-girlfriend’s ability to squirt. I do not doubt that there are, indeed a few women out there who can do this. I join you in wondering how it works, exactly. Further, is it a learnable ability?

[Ozme52]

I don't doubt that American (meaning U.S.) prudishness has caused a lot of "knowledge" to be lost over the generations... for if you read enough erotica, especially British 19th Century stuff, you realize that women constantly "spend" "bedew" and "annoint" their ravishers.

My first experience with the 'phenomenon' was with a young woman who quite liberally wet my legs during intercourse.

In more recent times, I've learned that many women gush when properly manipulated. Surprised a few who did so for the first time at my hands.

Not to mention that "the wet spot" on the sheets afterward... well it just can't be all male ejaculate.

Links to earlier conversations:
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...25&postcount=1
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...11&postcount=1
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...67&postcount=1

[leo9]

None of my own partners have had this facility, but the one time I visited a swingers' club I met an exhibitionistic lady who was happy to show off. I can confirm it's real, it's not urine, and it can squirt a good six inches.

Just part of the rich tapestry of human differences.

[the one]

Its real... trustme

[the one]

trust me

[denuseri]

lol, its as real as being conditioned to orgasm on command.



I used to think both impossible once upon a time, but then I also used to think I would never really be anyones slave begging on my knees for "use" eaither.

[symphony]

I join you in wondering how it works, exactly. Further, is it a learnable ability?

Interesting concept, has anyone learnt to do that?

[thir]

I’m sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. But I’m curious, what on earth is going on there lol?

Do they actually happen or are they something that has been made up/greatly exaggerated by the porn industry?

Can anyone do it or is it quite rare?

How does it physically work!?

ty for info

It is confusing, actually, because apparently not enough is known about this. A German gynaecologist by name of Ernst Gräfenberg thought he had discovered a point (of vary varied size in various women) on the upper side of the vagina that was good to stimulate. Many talk about it, but it has never been scientifically proved that is exists. However, it is said that around this point, some (by no means all) women have some sort of glands like men's prostata. Stimulation of these glands by the help of stimulating the G point can produce a liquid rather like semen, but without the spermatozoer. It is called female ejaculation. But confusingly it doesn't always, apparently, why is not know!

So, while the G point is not proved, the existence of these glands is, apparently, and female ejaculation does exists, but only for those with these glands and not all of those.

I can see the fun of trying to find out if you have this ability ;-)
But don't make it the only hallmark of wonderful sex, or feel bad if you cannot.

[phedrea]

I have squirting orgasms. Like a lot of squirting and no it's not urine it's clear and has no smell. I can double a towel under myself and still soak through to the bed. I don't have it through a clitoral orgasm but as far as being penetrated with fingers, cock, whatever I can make quite a mess. LOL.

[Dommaster690]

Ive found that when I play with girls and get them really turned on, horny and wet and deny them the chance to cum or orgasm by playing with them and then stopping just before they are about to cum, let them cool off a bit and then do that again several times, bringing them really close to an orgasm and then not let them cum, normal girls who dont usually squirt or gush end up gushing when they finally do cum. Yes I know its cruel but I do love orgasm denial and plus making girls squirt!=)

[denuseri]

It actually has nothing to do with orgasm denial, in fact its quite the opposite, a woman is more likely to achieve ejaculation after 2-3 orgasms than she is through other means; which btw vaginal orgasms (g spot) and female ejaculation is not directly related the way one may think it is.

Grafenberg's reaserch has been added to by many others now, such as Robinson, Pietranton, Perry, Belzar, Whipple and others.

In fact its become quite common knowledge for those that keep up with such things that all women have a "g spot" that if properly stimulated will result in orgasm.

According to Whipple there are two reasons the "spot" was overlooked by so many physicians:

A) it's on the anterior wall of the vagina in a region not normally palpated.

B) It must be palpated in a specific fashion to illicet the appropriate responce, most doctors (and sexual partners) dont do "that" lol. Just rubbing against it often times isnt enough.

In fact according to Whipple and others all the doctors who have looked for it using the correct anatomical directions found it in every woman they examined.

Just becuase one has a G spot doesnt mean one ejaculates however.

Reaserch has shown that only between 10% and 40% are capable of ejaculation.

And G-spot stimulation isnt allways nessesary for ejaculation to occur.

It has also been determined to not come from the Bartholin gland but does have somthing to do with the number, size and distribution of pariurethral glands.

Also about 20% of women who ejaculate do so through the urethra rather than the vaginal opening, and not all of them squirt persay, some just excrete copious amounts of fluid. I am in the later group myself. Blushes.

The link between ejaculation and g spot orgasms seems to be deep uterine contractions brought on by extreme sexual stimulation, which is simply more likely with g spot orgasms as opposed to clitoral ones alone and also twice as likely to occur after several orgasms have allready been achieved.

Chemical composition of female ejaculate is not pee and has nothing to do with poor bladder control whatsoever.

Most reserches say that women in the study groups reported the first few seconds of impending orgasm stimulation, and in paticular g-spot manipulation, produced a strong feeling that one is about to pee before changing to a sexual responce.

Naturally most of us will pull back when faced with this sensation and hold back thinking we are about to pee when this area recieves the proper stimulation which some reaserchers think is why a quarter of all women have never had an orgasm at all let alone a g-spot one.

Having a well-toned PC muscle also makes one more likely to ejaculate, not to mention improves orgasms in general.

So break out the ben wa balls and start working out if you want to really have some fun trying to see if you can do it too ladies.

[Firmware]

Twice well spoke by denuseri! Orgasms have many different levels and intensities, as many as 8 levels with observable manifestations!

The biggest impediment is trust. Technical applications although important is farther down the list! Play should be empowering to both! Trust.

Ps, We have 10 pads with wet absorbing cotton
on one side and plastic on the other side. Look in the senior section of your pharmacy. We can go through 3 or 4 in one hour. Save the bedding!

[memphis420]

While I don't know if I've ever achieved distance on my squirting, I do produce large amounts of fluid when I'm manually stimulated. It feels like it's running down, out of my urethra. I get extra squishy from the inside also. Sometimes a folded up bath towel under me is the only thing that will save me from a wet spot (and when I say spot, I mean a soaking wet down to the mattress spot the size of my entire ass (which isn't overly big, but still). I find that the largest amounts of fluid come when I'm being stimulated with a g-spot vibrator. When my K pulls it back and forth against my front wall, between the g-spot and cervix, it shoots me over the moon, and his hand gets SOAKED. I don't know if I'm an anomaly, but I love having my cervix manipulated, sometimes quite roughly. If K uses the vibrator and pushes with a firm pressure so that the head of the vibrator is on my cervix, I usually get extremely wet, both from the inside, and the outside. That's usually followed by a gigantic orgasm that leaves me with epileptic-like twitches and jerks. It's amazing. The only downside to this is when we're having sex, and he starts hitting the right spots inside, I get really wet and then start losing feeling. That's the issue that I am having trouble with. Any ideas?

[leo9]

The G-spot remains controversial, with a study by Kings College claiming to have disproved it. However, as this comment http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ot-women-study points out, it's in a long tradition of male reseachers drawing conclusions from women's self-reporting. I liked the comment that "The biggest problem with their findings is that twins don't generally have the same sexual partner."

Meanwhile an Italian study http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ch.sciencenews claims to have hard anatomical evidence that it exists - but only in women who have vaginal orgasms.
"Ultrasound scans revealed clear anatomical differences between women who said they experienced vaginal orgasms and a group of women who did not. The scans identified a region of thicker tissue where the G spot was rumoured to be lurking, which was not visible in the women who had never had a vaginal orgasm."

What strikes me is that they have located this "band of thicker tissue" but not determined what it is: and if it is muscle, it's entirely possible that it is thicker from use, not because these women were just blessed by Venus with an organ their sisters don't have. Which would, among other things, be consistent with the twin study even if we accept the self-reporting: twins can very well differ in muscular development depending on their lifestyles.

The study shows (if replicated - I note their sample was only 20) that there is a corellation between G-spot and vaginal orgasm, but the causal link remains unproved. It could equally be that vaginal orgasms, like PCG exercises, build up this region. More research needed - I suggest we call for volunteers

[thir]

I don't have it through a clitoral orgasm but as far as being penetrated with fingers, cock, whatever I can make quite a mess. LOL.

I have never understood about clitoral orgasm - to me an orgasm is an orgasm.
Do you mind describing the difference? I always wondered.

[thir]

It actually has nothing to do with orgasm denial, in fact its quite the opposite, a woman is more likely to achieve ejaculation after 2-3 orgasms than she is through other means; which btw vaginal orgasms (g spot) and female ejaculation is not directly related the way one may think it is.

Grafenberg's reaserch has been added to by many others now, such as Robinson, Pietranton, Perry, Belzar, Whipple and others.

In fact its become quite common knowledge for those that keep up with such things that all women have a "g spot" that if properly stimulated will result in orgasm.

According to Whipple there are two reasons the "spot" was overlooked by so many physicians:

A) it's on the anterior wall of the vagina in a region not normally palpated.

B) It must be palpated in a specific fashion to illicet the appropriate responce, most doctors (and sexual partners) dont do "that" lol. Just rubbing against it often times isnt enough.

In fact according to Whipple and others all the doctors who have looked for it using the correct anatomical directions found it in every woman they examined.

I refer to Leo9's mail here and also beg to differ: A thing repeated often enough gets to be 'common knowledge' - but not therefore always fact.

'All the doctors looking found it every women they examined' - in spite of how difficult it can sometimes be - but the newest technology that can really 'see' the anatomy in there did not!

Maybe what Whipple reports says more about doctors finding what they assume is there, than of the anatomy of women?

The jury is still out in the question of the G spot.

However, with better technology such as described in the article Leo9 is mentioning we start to get solid facts. I am convinced that this riddle will also soon be solved.

I find it important to point this out, as it is all too easy to think that something is wrong with you if you do not seem to fit the latest description of how we are supposed to be.

The link between ejaculation and g spot orgasms seems to be deep uterine contractions brought on by extreme sexual stimulation, which is simply more likely with g spot orgasms as opposed to clitoral ones alone and also twice as likely to occur after several orgasms have allready been achieved.

You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.

Most reserches say that women in the study groups reported the first few seconds of impending orgasm stimulation, and in paticular g-spot manipulation, produced a strong feeling that one is about to pee before changing to a sexual responce.

Naturally most of us will pull back when faced with this sensation and hold back thinking we are about to pee when this area recieves the proper stimulation which some reaserchers think is why a quarter of all women have never had an orgasm at all let alone a g-spot one.

"let alone a g-spot one"??

I remember all the silly discussions about whether one 'should' have a "clitoris" orgasm or whether a "vaginal" orgasm is the "right" one and "better" than the other, and if you are "normal" if you get one or not "good enough" if you get the other and which guy is best lover and is he "good enough" if his loved one gets one or the other, and everybody feeling wrong and lots of competition!!

For Goodness sake, lets not turn this into that kind of sillyness! People generally have enough real sexual problems, no little thanks to religious puritanism, and do not need fictional ones.

The point is to have what is experienced as a good sexual life for all involved. It is not like comparing clothes!

.

[denuseri]

There is nothing fictional in the things I reported on thir, they are simply a paraphrasing of what scientists who have been studying this have said and I cant help it if a small group of scientists in europe are contesting what a lot of other scientists world wide are not, or that GYN's who have been asked about being able to locate the spot in their patients by Whipple and others all reported being able to find it once they new where to palpate.

Just becuase you don't have a g-spot orgasm, or can't ejaculate doesnt mean you can't enjoy sexual relations. I said nothing about which is better or more normal, please don't put words in my mouth that I didnt say.

The contractions from menstration and birth are not due to extreme sexual stimulation now are they. (please do not take what I say out of context) Additionally during orgasm way more than just the PC muscle is involved, contractions occur in the outer third of the vagina, the uterus and anus as well.

Leo has found some sources that appear to contest on the surface, the reports that I found on the same subject. Does the structure that may be responsible for them exisit? I am sure it does, but I also doubt ultrasound is going to be a detailed enough way of detecting a nerve bundle buried under a tissue layer. If they really want to hunt it down and rule out weather its a structure in all women perhaps they should give a very large number of us MRI's, (at least 3000 would be good) while making sure there are three control groups of us; one that has experienced these things first hand, one that hasnt for sure, and one that is randomly selected. Why it could very well be a matter of simply being underdeveloped in some of us, or missing I suppose in some rare cases. Of course if its simply underdeveloped that doesnt mean it isnt there. There is also a hudge phycological set of factors involved in orgasms, not to mention hormones and other brain chemistry, as well as suficient blood flow being of prime nessesity. I am sure if any of those are out of wack that stuff just wont work the way its designed too.

[symphony]

For Goodness sake, lets not turn this into that kind of sillyness! People generally have enough real sexual problems, no little thanks to religious puritanism, and do not need fictional ones.

The point is to have what is experienced as a good sexual life for all involved. It is not like comparing clothes!

.

I really dont know where that statment came from, I asked a 'simple' question and i have had a whole range of answers all of which i have found useful and informative to one degree or another.

As far as I know none of us are medical researchers and all I was looking for is peoples opinions which I got.

I, in no way think that any type of orgasm wins and that was not the intention of my question. It was pure curiosity and was not ment to upset anyone that cant have that kind of orgasm, as I too am one of those as far as I know and have no complaints.

[memphis420]

You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.

I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.

[thir]

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You lost me there. The uterus contracts with menstrual cramps and during births, not during orgasm. It is the pubococcygeus muscle that contracts during an orgasm.

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I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.

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I had no intention to insult anyone, and there is really no need to shout.
I take what you say onboard, this thing is new to me but that is what these lists are for - to hear and learn new things.

I am going to STRONGLY disagree with you. Maybe your uterus doesn't contract with a strong orgasm. I've had contractions firm enough to feel like cramps due to an extraordinary orgasm.

[thir]

I really dont know where that statment came from, I asked a 'simple' question and i have had a whole range of answers all of which i have found useful and informative to one degree or another.

As far as I know none of us are medical researchers and all I was looking for is peoples opinions which I got.

I, in no way think that any type of orgasm wins and that was not the intention of my question. It was pure curiosity and was not ment to upset anyone that cant have that kind of orgasm, as I too am one of those as far as I know and have no complaints.

It wasn't aimed at your topic dear - sorry for the confusion.

[thir]

There is nothing fictional in the things I reported on thir, they are simply a paraphrasing of what scientists who have been studying this have said and I cant help it if a small group of scientists in europe are contesting what a lot of other scientists world wide are not, or that GYN's who have been asked about being able to locate the spot in their patients by Whipple and others all reported being able to find it once they new where to palpate.

Oh come on! This is not a matter of Europe versus US.

Just becuase you don't have a g-spot orgasm, or can't ejaculate doesnt mean you can't enjoy sexual relations. I said nothing about which is better or more normal, please don't put words in my mouth that I didnt say.

If you did not, then I apoligize. I read it that way, maybe because I remember too well all the hysterical discussions - everywhere - about which kind of orgasm is right. This is a lot of time ago, and probably not something you have experienced or noticed, but it did a lot of harm, I can tell you that.

I take the 'you' to be generic here.

The contractions from menstration and birth are not due to extreme sexual stimulation now are they. (please do not take what I say out of context) Additionally during orgasm way more than just the PC muscle is involved, contractions occur in the outer third of the vagina, the uterus and anus as well.

To the best of my knowledge all this of can occur.

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Leo has found some sources that appear to contest on the surface, the reports that I found on the same subject. Does the structure that may be responsible for them exisit? I am sure it does, but I also doubt ultrasound is going to be a detailed enough way of detecting a nerve bundle buried under a tissue layer. If they really want to hunt it down and rule out weather its a structure in all women perhaps they should give a very large number of us MRI's, (at least 3000 would be good) while making sure there are three control groups of us; one that has experienced these things first hand, one that hasnt for sure, and one that is randomly selected. Why it could very well be a matter of simply being underdeveloped in some of us, or missing I suppose in some rare cases. Of course if its simply underdeveloped that doesnt mean it isnt there.

I think we must simply agree to disagree, you believe some science, I this, the newest. It doesn't really matter, what matters is that people are happy with their sexlife.

There is also a hudge phycological set of factors involved in orgasms, not to mention hormones and other brain chemistry, as well as suficient blood flow being of prime nessesity. I am sure if any of those are out of wack that stuff just wont work the way its designed too.

Sure. Hence all the sexologists.

[13'sbadkitty]

ok, now i have a question to the women who have had one form of squirting or another. my Master has recently decided to make that a mission for me and it didn't seem to happen. Although, i have had many times when upon arising there was so much that gushed out. Way more than a man ejaculates. is it possible that is it? like i oozed rather than squirted?
He did finally get it to happen one day recently and as Denuseri said, it was after many orgasms instead of denial. i did not expect it and had to wash everything! but He was pretty happy!

[JaDeDLoVe]

kitty, my opinion is yes, you acheived ejaculation.

i too am blessed (and cursed) with this ability. i both "flood" and "squirt" depending on the type and intensity of the manipulation. For me, (as i can only speak of my personal experience) i tend to squirt from prolonged intense yet light pressure stimulation clitorally. by this i mean for example, having a bullet vibe set on high just barely touching just my exposed clit and nothing else. that intense, acute stimulation will cause me to squirt quite hard and quite strongly, at times *blushing* hitting SIR in the face. other times, when the stimulation is more aggressive and is vaginal in nature, i flood. it is Sir's goal for this to occur with every orgasm, and He does not grant me rest until it occurs. it brings Him great pleasure to see my body react to Him is such a way. but it causes me to have alot of extra laundry and frequently have the need to sanitize the mattress as i tend to soak through any and everything we try as a barrier. our next investment will be a set of sport sheets. LOL

i can indeed testify that neither form of ejaculation contain urine, is colorless; however, does have a very very light bit of a sweet musky odor... then again i have extremely sensitive olfactory senses and frequently ask: "what is that smell?" only to be told that whoever i am with can't smell anything, and i end up wandering around sniffing everything until i can find the source! LOL

[Midnytedreams]

My first wife was a squirter, when we had a double bed would have to get up after and change the sheets. We finally got a king sized bed so we could have our fun on one side and sleep on the other. So I know it is fact.rubber mattress cover helps too.

[denuseri]

I think you made it just fine Kitty, I am more of an oozer than a squirter myself.

My only consern as a side bar (and this is nothing against anyone's dom); is that a dominant gets it into his head that it is somthing that has to occur, there are too many physiological variables involved (just like with cumming on command) to have this set as a kind of condition or something where one has been considered to have failed a task from one's dominant if they do not achieve it.

thir I apologize if I have somehow miscommunicated with you somehow. I have not intended for anyone to have read in my words anything that is being taken in the way you have taken it, I dont expect people to read between the lines with anything that I post on the site. I was only reporting upon what I found while reaserching the subject.

[spicennice]

Yes, I am an oozer (although I have been known to squirt as well). I get everything soaked. It also seems that once the floodgates open if stimilation continues it simply doesn't stop. When I was young (80's) my men would say 'did you just pee on me?'. It took me a long time to get over that feeling of having done something wrong. Then I came across a man who was a little more aware. He loved it. Worshipped it. Set my mind at ease greatly. The internet has helped alot. Knowing I wasn't the 'only one'. I still have a bit of an issue about it but am aware enough at this stage in my life that if someone doesn't like it - they don't have to be with me. What I know is that when it happens my orgasms feel like entire body orgasms - there is something very deep and sensational about them.

[tigerdom]

I to can flood/squirt. It is a totally different feelling. It can be learned, for I just recently learned to do. You have to have some control of the muscles, I still do not do it everytime. I had never done it then a friend got me to alittle. Then after that my friend has been able to accomplish it many times. I have also learned to do it myself.

One way that can help to get you to squirt, if they are fingering you when they begin to feel you tighten to cum, have them move their fingers from side to side sorta fast. When they do this you can't tighten those muscles and it lets it just go.

Once I do this so many times, I will start to tighten up when I cum to where I can not control what happens, but by then everything is soaked.

[summerBreeze{EDQ}]

I dont know what you call it but I have saturated the bed often and was always a bit embarrassed and have had to put thick towels down. blushes