When even the Guru of AGW says that the only consensus is that there is no consensus, why is it that the AGW crowd continues its mantra of gloom and doom? Why do they continue to trot out draconian measures to alter something that they do not yet understand?
This is like the Government demanding that the auto industry, I'm sorry the auto division of Government, reduce fuel consumption in cars. How did they do that? Mandate a fleet wide average, without consideration to any other business concern. The result? Not fuel efficient cars people buy, but a large segment of the fleet that has a high, tested, fuel consumption and everything else. What do the people buy? Largely everything else. Market forces would be a better engine of innovation that a mandate from some outsider. The Smart Car is making inroads in the US for a number of reasons, I can give you mine. I am not currently in the market for a car but the price, economy, safety, and difference of the car is large in my mind. Although I really would prefer one of the companies other models. Provided the EPA doesn't screw it up. When I first found the Smart it was reported at 60 mpg, by the time it passed US regs it was a mere 40 mpg.

Wandered a bit at the end there!
Quote Originally Posted by symphony View Post
i did read them, thats why i posted.
When did i say that they diddnt report in the uk. blatently i said they did, but it is not always advisable to believe it without checking their sources... but i see im not going to get anywhere, and im wasting my time.