well ty ty guys
i did ask him and he said that it is not the action of causing pain but the act of me submitting and listening to his orders.... and disciplining me when i am late or being bratty (which i am... plenty bratty :*)

i am going to look into the elk hide flogger because i do enjoy that sometimes...
now i just have to gather up the balls to ask him if we could do some extreme vibrator sessions.... that i would looooooove.