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[SadisticNature]

Wrong. That's the current viewpoint of people who do not understand how America is really supposed to work. The government works FOR the people, and if they pass a new tax code or say $$ will be spent on a specific thing, then they are beholden to the people who elected them to spend the money in the manner they said it would be spent. It is "OUR" money because it is "OUR" government. Unfortunately, education has been twisted to the point where the true American Government process has been taught incorrectly for so long now, that even adults have a skewed view of it.

The American Government now keeps 70¢ of every $1 collected for themselves, to spend on their own expenses. Only 30¢ of each $1 collected gets distributed to the various programs.

The government works for the people. That means everyone, not just you. It's a republic not a democracy, so they are allowed to vote for unpopular things once elected.

Also you keep $0.70 cents of every $1 collected is rather misleading. Do you count military expenses as keeping for itself? What about medicare? What about medicaid? What about social security?

The government actually spends far more than it takes in, and the overhead of the government itself is small compared to programs.

[steelish]

The government works for the people. That means everyone, not just you. It's a republic not a democracy, so they are allowed to vote for unpopular things once elected.

It means all American citizens, yes. It also means that if a program is voted into existence, and they say they will do "X", they should do "X" and not do "Y"...that is what I am trying to say.

Also you keep $0.70 cents of every $1 collected is rather misleading. Do you count military expenses as keeping for itself?

No, that comes out of the 30¢

What about medicare?

No, that comes out of the 30¢

What about medicaid?

No, that comes out of the 30¢

What about social security?

No, that comes out of the 30¢

The government actually spends far more than it takes in, and the overhead of the government itself is small compared to programs.

Exactly, therefore you can understand the frustration and the reason the deficit is so high. The government officials have their own fleet of planes, their own healthcare system, and very high salaries. Once voted out or retired, they (and their families) retain that healthcare and they continue to earn their salaries until death. Is it any wonder why they consume so much of our taxpaying monies?

[SadisticNature]

It means all American citizens, yes. It also means that if a program is voted into existence, and they say they will do "X", they should do "X" and not do "Y"...that is what I am trying to say.



No, that comes out of the 30¢



No, that comes out of the 30¢



No, that comes out of the 30¢



No, that comes out of the 30¢



Exactly, therefore you can understand the frustration and the reason the deficit is so high. The government officials have their own fleet of planes, their own healthcare system, and very high salaries. Once voted out or retired, they (and their families) retain that healthcare and they continue to earn their salaries until death. Is it any wonder why they consume so much of our taxpaying monies?

You might want to check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...federal_budget

Your 30 cents figure is actually grossly erroneous.

Medicare + Medicaid = 19% of spending
Social Security = 20% of spending
Defense = 23% of spending

Government Salaries are covered in Other Mandatory Spending and represent a portion of a category that covers 17% of spending.

So your 70 cent figure is actually more like 10 cents on the dollar, and your 30 cents figure is more like 90 cents on the dollar.

[DuncanONeil]

Than it is too late to fix anything!

BTB what has this to do with NASA?

You might want to check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...federal_budget

Your 30 cents figure is actually grossly erroneous.

Medicare + Medicaid = 19% of spending
Social Security = 20% of spending
Defense = 23% of spending

Government Salaries are covered in Other Mandatory Spending and represent a portion of a category that covers 17% of spending.

So your 70 cent figure is actually more like 10 cents on the dollar, and your 30 cents figure is more like 90 cents on the dollar.

[SadisticNature]

Your standards for tangents that result from normal discussion in a thread seems to be they are ok, as long as you agree with them. The minute you disagree you criticize the post. The point was this was replying to a grossly erroneous "fact" (I should probably call it a fiction) that was posted in this thread. Just because such errors are off topic doesnt' mean it should be fine to post the error and not fine to correct it. Just because such errors support ones world view doesn't mean it should be fine to post the error as truth and not fine to correct it.

Than it is too late to fix anything!

BTB what has this to do with NASA?

[DuncanONeil]

Ok! What was the erroneous fact?

Your standards for tangents that result from normal discussion in a thread seems to be they are ok, as long as you agree with them. The minute you disagree you criticize the post. The point was this was replying to a grossly erroneous "fact" (I should probably call it a fiction) that was posted in this thread. Just because such errors are off topic doesnt' mean it should be fine to post the error and not fine to correct it. Just because such errors support ones world view doesn't mean it should be fine to post the error as truth and not fine to correct it.