Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
So you would choose desperate outsiders over desperate insiders? This is totally beyond my comprehension.
No. I would make no distinction between them. What is beyond my comprehension is that you would, and the distinction would be based on nothing better than where a person happened to be born.


Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
Easily afford? This country is in debt up to our eyeballs, our future mortgaged away to line the pockets of corrupt politicians. The last thing we can afford is to keep throwing money into endless pool of illegals!
Except the mortgages lined the pockets of corrupt bankers.

The very simple fact you are ignoring is, although America currently owes lots of money as a result of the Banking Crisis, it is owed lots and lots more money by other entities, and could, if it chose, repay the whole national debt tomorrow by cancelling or transferring some of the debts due to it.

Yes, America could easily afford to aid those immigrants.


Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
Aside from the fact that or biological make-up leads us to protect the children, a child has far more potential value to society than an old man who has already lived the bulk of his life.
I am struck with the reckless ease you are prepared to dismiss the value of people on the basis of sweeping and flawed assumptions. The fact that the old man has lived the greater part of his life suggests he is of greater value to society than a child who has nothing more to give than "potential", because the old man has actual experience and wisdom to offer.

This, I now see, is how you can deny masses of people the benefits and advantages you have received, more by good fortune than effort, however you might protest at my saying that, simply because they did not have the luck to have had ancestors who did manage to enter the country and stay.


Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
If they are willing to risk their child's life rather than be sent home, do we really want to bother helping them?
So if I am prepared to let a child die, you are too ...

Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
I do feel sympathy. But they are illegal, and should be subject to the law. I would also feel sympathy for a mother who killed her children in a fit of depression. I would still want her locked away in prison, but I'd be sympathetic.
... but only I would go to prison. At least I'd know you felt sorry for me - but not enough to help.