Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
...we should seperate liberals the political group from liberals the education system.
It is my contention that the educational system is producing the liberals in the political group.

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
It's [educational system teaching doctrine instead of fact] been doing that since way back when they switched away from the classical educational model to the liberal one so I personally didn't require the article for that when I can see it myself first hand.
I'm glad you see that. Was there anything in the article that informed you of something that you didn't already know?

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
It is possible that the exonomic sistuation also developed into something too complex for "directed" evolution when one is dealing from a limited perspective.
I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Are you saying that the economy is too complex for basics to be relevant?

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
He simply pointed out that one can quite literally say the same exact thing about the other side by simple substitution of a few nouns etc.
He made that claim and as yet has not had the opportuinty or inclination to support it.

Quote Originally Posted by chuck View Post
Regardless, pointing to a flaw elsewhere is not a valid way to address a flaw that is being addressed.

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
Why not? Socrates did it as a matter of routine if I recall correctly.
So, for example, if one person's addition problem is incorrect, a valid response is to point out that someone else missed a subtraction problem?

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
Why how cute.
Interpreted as derisive.

Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
Does this mean we are all ready to discuss the topic instead of weather or not anyone has offended someone by their choice of adjectives?
Apparently not, but since we already agree on the major point [the educational system teaches doctrine instead of fact], it probably doesn't matter.