chuck: thank you for your thoughtful response as well.

I think you may be operating under the misconception that I am trying to convince you of something. Personally I don't care how you interpret this article, call it trash, call it newsworthy, call it the bible if you want. Since I am not trying to sway your opinion, nor am I submitting my opinion to your criteria of debate or acceptance, I find no reason to submit any further substantiating facts or evidence to support my conclusions regarding this thread.

It is my position chuck, that your tea cup is already full and to continue pouring tea would only serve to continue making a mess of the table.

As previously stated I am done contributing to this thread other than a bit of clarification and my roll as moderator. (No its not a illusion of perception, I am the moderator for this section of the forums.)

On that subject you have demonstrated an ability to post thoughtful and intelligent points and rebuttals. Those are definitely welcome and appreciated on these boards.

"... I've been told that my style is a bit caustic" ~ chuck

Yes most definitely so. May I suggest that you tone down the not so subtle insults please? That would go a long way towards others actually considering your remarks about rudeness and jibing attacks seriously.

Examples of stones and glass houses, pots and kettles abound in this thread.
(By more than one member)

To be fair, denu, I would also ask that you please consider taking the high road in any further responses in this thread, as well.

We haven't reached the stage of warnings and apologies yet in my viewpoint but we are standing right on the edge of it.

steelish: Who has been attacked and who is attacking, is certainly a matter of subjective viewpoint.

Thank you very much for helping to steer this thread back into the realm of discussing the topic.

Respectfully,
Tantric