Awesome new layout

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And to re-iterate YET AGAIN, since Torq's post apparently wasn't clear enough to those who want to continue the debate via PM: THERE IS NO DEBATE TO BE HAD. PERIOD. I posted when we first put up the new lay out that WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE PROBLEMS. For some reason, that didn't stop the complaining... WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PROBLEMS STILL. I noted we would tell you when we were done... HAVE SOME PATIENCE. We used to take the site down for 4-5-6 days while doing an upgrade SPECIFICALLY to avoid this bitching problem. However, this time we figured a nice, simple post would let folks know that there are still issues being worked through. *Apparently* for some of you... hmmm... no.

We RECOMMEND you use Internet Explorer for the best viewing of the site. But I don't give a flying FUCK what operating system you use OR what browser you use--YOU CAN USE WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT TO USE!!!!! HOWEVER: WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THE DISINTEGRATION OF A GREAT RE-FURB BY PEOPLE WHO INSIST ON POSTING ABOUT BROWSER WARS. DO THAT ELSEWHERE. I don't give a shit what you think about IE or Windows or Microsoft. TOO BAD. If you hate it THAT MUCH, and you CAN'T STAND IT, and you think that the ENTIRE WORLD is coming to an end, then I suggest you take yourself elsewhere: your whining is not tolerated here anymore.

Mac Users: Yes, we know most of you use Safari. So far, that seems to work better than anything else on Macs, but some the Macs are definitely still "randomizing" some of the pages. However, other Mac users are experiencing no problems at all. We have it on the issue list, we'll work through the problem. Have some patience please.

10% of your people take 90% of your time. In the case of this site, it's the SAME SHIT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO ANYTHING to improve the site: the people who don't substantively contribute jack shit to the site come out of the woodwork & start whining about anything & everything. You know what? It's GETTING OLD. If you are a substantive contributor & you don't like the new layout because there's a function missing or a problem w/posting, let me know. If you are a pain in the ass that simply likes to get your rocks off by being negative & pissing and moaning, keep it to yourself.

There is a way to say "Hey, Admins, um, _______________ isn't working" in an EFFECTIVE, POLITE, RESPECTFUL way. There have been many that have already mentioned issues in this manner via PM... and many folks we have already been working with on various issues. What we will NOT tolerate is the bitchy complaining & the attitudes that come along with it. When we tell you we're ready to get a list of the remaining issues (NOT YET!) bring us the issues, check the attitude at the door. It facinates the hell out of me how some people get along in the real world given the attitudes & rudeness they display here. We are not chumps, we are not stupid, we are not ignorant, we are NOT ignoring "your problems." We are simply working through them, one at a time in an efficient manner. But, again, we will NOT tolerate the "attitude" that is being given by various people.

The staff on this site DONATE their time to make this site a great place to be, and to keep it running. We ALL have r/l jobs and r/l responsibilities outside of this site. I know, for some of you, that might be a hard concept to wrap your head around-- you just can't seem to understand that there aren't 20 dedicated minions working 24/7 on the site to work out every single solitary "bug" so that your entire time on the site is seamless & amazing. We do the best job we can for the majority of people the majority of the time... but we aren't puppeteers and we aren't magicians.

The VAST majority of folks are able to get in, post, and navigate. For those that can't, and are hell bent on using another browser or operating system, for right now, you might be shit out of luck. For those that can't post or navigate and are using IE/Windows, there either is an issue w/your cookies still being locked into the old system, or there potentially could be another problem... We are still working through some odds and ends on the issue list, and continue to finish getting some of the quirks fixed (for instance, the smilies, a lot of which *poofed* in the re-furb).

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN QUIET, SUPPORTIVE, OR JUST WANT THE SCREAMING TO STOP: We're almost there. Thanks for hanging in there. And we hope you like the new look.