Is Obama a Socialist?

[steelish]

When you make refrences to scources that are hardly unbiased or take what others have said completely out of context and or twist them around to suit your own agenda what do you expect for me to say?

How is it "out of context" to point out that Obama says if you want to know how he thinks and feels, look at who he surrounds himself with. I then point out that he surrounds himself with Chavez and Mao Zedung supporters and believers. He surrounds himself with people who were American terrorists in the '60s. He surrounds himself with people who believe that Capitalism is a joke and political power comes from the barrel of a gun. He surrounds himself with people who believe American populations should be regulated by putting birth control chemicals in our drinking water.

This is not stuff that is untrue. It's simple facts that can be found by research. They don't hide their beliefs. They state them openly. There are video clips of some of them saying this stuff in their own words and can be found on YouTube!

And what the hell is this speech really about? Oh, BTW - XBox 360s don't provide information. Neither do iPods unless it's an iPod Touch with internet access. Who is fear mongering???? What is he saying? Too much information for Americans? All of us are too stupid to make up our own minds? I think he's saying, "Here...let me make it for you. Trust me. I will be the only honest one."

None of this raises red flags for you?

[DuncanONeil]

And followers of Saul Alinsky. Not to mention the close advisers and friends that Were in the SDS and Weather underground, and founded the new SDS in 2006. "Students for a Democratic Society is a radical, multi-issue student and youth organization working to build power in our schools and communities" But never forget that it was founded by formenr SDS radicals of the 60s. SDS developed from the Student League for Industrial Democracy (SLID), the youth branch of a socialist educational organization known as the League for Industrial Democracy (LID). LID descended from the Intercollegiate Socialist Society, started in 1905. Early in 1960, SLID decided to change its name into SDS. Unlike SDS-RYM and the Weathermen, SDS-WSA strongly opposed bombing and terrorism. In 1971, SDS-WSA published a pamphlet titled Who Are The Bombers? (following the like attached to this title leads to a Communist page)

How is it "out of context" to point out that Obama says if you want to know how he thinks and feels, look at who he surrounds himself with. I then point out that he surrounds himself with Chavez and Mao Zedung supporters and believers. He surrounds himself with people who were American terrorists in the '60s. He surrounds himself with people who believe that Capitalism is a joke and political power comes from the barrel of a gun. He surrounds himself with people who believe American populations should be regulated by putting birth control chemicals in our drinking water.

This is not stuff that is untrue. It's simple facts that can be found by research. They don't hide their beliefs. They state them openly. There are video clips of some of them saying this stuff in their own words and can be found on YouTube!

And what the hell is this speech really about? Oh, BTW - XBox 360s don't provide information. Neither do iPods unless it's an iPod Touch with internet access. Who is fear mongering???? What is he saying? Too much information for Americans? All of us are too stupid to make up our own minds? I think he's saying, "Here...let me make it for you. Trust me. I will be the only honest one."

None of this raises red flags for you?

[Lion]

And what the hell is this speech really about? Oh, BTW - XBox 360s don't provide information. Neither do iPods unless it's an iPod Touch with internet access. Who is fear mongering???? What is he saying? Too much information for Americans? All of us are too stupid to make up our own minds? I think he's saying, "Here...let me make it for you. Trust me. I will be the only honest one."

None of this raises red flags for you?

Recently, a woman got fired because of comments she made in a speech. The fools who reacted to heavily to her words decided that a small snippet of her speech was enough to make a decision. I say we learn from that mistake and not judge Obama's speech the same way.

[steelish]

Recently, a woman got fired because of comments she made in a speech. The fools who reacted to heavily to her words decided that a small snippet of her speech was enough to make a decision. I say we learn from that mistake and not judge Obama's speech the same way.

That's rich. Obama and his administration are the one's who overreacted!

[Lion]

That's rich. Obama and his administration are the one's who overreacted!

Yep....as I said, fools

[steelish]

Yep....as I said, fools

I quite agree. Instead of watching the entire speech and realizing she was telling the story of her "Aha" moment, they reacted to a single portion of it.

Even listening to Obama's entire speech to the Hampton grads doesn't explain what he said! He's telling them that there is TOO MUCH INFORMATION out there. That there's too much to process. That there are liars out there. (Well, duh) He's practically implying that they're too stupid to process the information themselves and come to their own conclusion.

Whether you agree with him or not is moot. The point being, in America you can believe what you want, whether you're right or wrong and it's your right to listen to whatever source of information you want to, whether it's your XBox (what a joke) or your iPod or a newspaper...and for a President to tell young adults that this is wrong is ridiculous.

[chuck]

it's your right to listen to whatever source of information you want to, whether it's your XBox (what a joke) or your iPod or a newspaper...

~sigh~ a newspaper (also... "what a joke").

[steelish]

~sigh~ a newspaper (also... "what a joke").

I agree as most newspapers (and news channels) nowadays are very biased and it's difficult to find news sources that report things from an unobjective standpoint.

[DuncanONeil]

It fits in again, perhaps more appropriately;
"In America the "ruling" class wears on its sleeve the view that the rest of Americans are racist,greedy, and above all stupid. ... The rulers want the ruled to shut up and obey." (Angelo M Codevilla Professor emeritus of International Relations at Boston U.)

I quite agree. Instead of watching the entire speech and realizing she was telling the story of her "Aha" moment, they reacted to a single portion of it.

Even listening to Obama's entire speech to the Hampton grads doesn't explain what he said! He's telling them that there is TOO MUCH INFORMATION out there. That there's too much to process. That there are liars out there. (Well, duh) He's practically implying that they're too stupid to process the information themselves and come to their own conclusion.

Whether you agree with him or not is moot. The point being, in America you can believe what you want, whether you're right or wrong and it's your right to listen to whatever source of information you want to, whether it's your XBox (what a joke) or your iPod or a newspaper...and for a President to tell young adults that this is wrong is ridiculous.

[leo9]

"In America the "ruling" class wears on its sleeve the view that the rest of Americans are racist,greedy, and above all stupid. " (Angelo M Codevilla Professor emeritus of International Relations at Boston U.)

Amazing. What could possibly give them such a totally groundless and unsupported impression? Don't they watch the news?

[DuncanONeil]

In America the "ruling" class wears on its sleeve the view that the rest of Americans are racist,greedy, and above all stupid. ... The rulers want the ruled to shut up and obey." (Angelo M Codevilla Professor emeritus of International Relations at Boston U.)

How is it "out of context" to point out that Obama says if you want to know how he thinks and feels, look at who he surrounds himself with. I then point out that he surrounds himself with Chavez and Mao Zedung supporters and believers. He surrounds himself with people who were American terrorists in the '60s. He surrounds himself with people who believe that Capitalism is a joke and political power comes from the barrel of a gun. He surrounds himself with people who believe American populations should be regulated by putting birth control chemicals in our drinking water.

This is not stuff that is untrue. It's simple facts that can be found by research. They don't hide their beliefs. They state them openly. There are video clips of some of them saying this stuff in their own words and can be found on YouTube!

And what the hell is this speech really about? Oh, BTW - XBox 360s don't provide information. Neither do iPods unless it's an iPod Touch with internet access. Who is fear mongering???? What is he saying? Too much information for Americans? All of us are too stupid to make up our own minds? I think he's saying, "Here...let me make it for you. Trust me. I will be the only honest one."

None of this raises red flags for you?