Wiki leak

[lucy]

New leak!!!!

[gagged_Louise]

As Lucky Luciano put it after he had engineered the assassination of the old Don Giuseppe Masseria in an NYC Italian restaurant (where else? - Masseria's head fell down onto a plate of Spaghetti Bolognese): "I was out in the men's room taking a leak; I always take a long leak".

That line gave him a good alibi, and it was actually true, though he had hired the killers, but of course it was censored by the police.

[denuseri]

omg too funny and ironic lucy lol. I know someone in the anon group too. Some of them may even yet still be members of this site who knows.

[IAN 2411]

Back to Mr wiki leak, he was released from his cell again yesterday, and in the interview with sky. He told reporters that his extradition to Sweedon was not a big deal, as he was more worried about being extradited to America. He is under the impression that the Americans are after him, I cant think why? lol

Regards IAN 2411{lillirose}

[leo9]

Back to Mr wiki leak, he was released from his cell again yesterday, and in the interview with sky. He told reporters that his extradition to Sweedon was not a big deal, as he was more worried about being extradited to America. He is under the impression that the Americans are after him, I cant think why? lol

His best chance there is that the US authorities have shown their hand by saying they want to charge him with espionage, which can carry the death penalty. As a general rule, we don't extradite European citizens to courts that might send them to be executed, and there would be outcry across the continent if the Swedish government made an exception for Assange.

[denuseri]

<< Wonders if the Swede's will have Assange in a posh jail or a more practical one or hail him a hero before this is all done.

[thir]

A massive set of 90,000 leaked US military records have provided one of the most revealing insights into the US-led war in Afghanistan, including unreported civilian killings by coalition forces and raids by a special force to hunt down Taliban leaders.

The leaked documents called the "The War Logs," posted on Sunday, map the US war in Afghanistan from 2004 to 2009, and with it WikiLeaks has pulled the biggest leaks in intelligence history.

Comments?

Sorry to come in so late. A very interesting thread!

I think generally the more knowledge to voters, the more democracy.

[thir]

According to L.C. Baldor of the Associated Press:



Some, however, cautioned that without proper controls that mandate the protection of innocent civilians, such targeted hits could veer into criminal activities.

The Afghanistan war, with its terrorist hit lists, counterinsurgency battles and high-tech battle gear, presents difficult questions. "It is really hard to know where assassination ends and war starts," said Parker.

Targeted military strikes, he said, are on the fringe of accepted military practice during an armed conflict.

"This is a relatively new form of warfare that we're seeing now," he said. "The technology takes you to a different place and raises questions that just weren't there 20 years ago. A lot of these questions don't have answers — they have a test of acceptability."

Seems to me there is no test of acceptability without anyone knowing. That goes for all wars. Important questions raised here.

[thir]

OK, we have to do very bad things too. I can live with that. Sometimes innocent lives have to be sacrificed "for the greater good" - an awful judgement I am not prepared to make, but the necessity of which I do accept.

To me the acid test is if you are willing to sacrifice your own for the greater good.

[thir]

Sadly, this is all too often true. As citizens of reputedly free, civilized nations, though, we would hope those atrocities were aberrations committed by bad individuals rather than policies implemented by our leaders.

Well said!

As for putting soldiers at risk, while always a concern, we have to remember that it's those leaders who started these wars who are putting them at risk, while taking little or no risk themselves.

If the release of these documents somehow manages to get our troops recalled from those sinkholes in the deserts, I wonder how many of them would be grateful.

That too.

[thir]

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Why do people pick on America?

What is meant here by 'pick on'???

[IAN 2411]

His best chance there is that the US authorities have shown their hand by saying they want to charge him with espionage, which can carry the death penalty. As a general rule, we don't extradite European citizens to courts that might send them to be executed, and there would be outcry across the continent if the Swedish government made an exception for Assange.

How can the Americans charge him with espionage, if three million Americans already had privi to the same secrets? That has to be a bluff.

[IAN 2411]

Why do people pick on America?

Why not? Europe have been picking on the UK ever since we have been part of it, and I am a great believer in everyone getting their fair share.

[Lion]

Why do people pick on America?

I wouldn't call it picking. Picking on someone is when they are being abused for simply existing. US on the other hand doesn't simply exist. More then any other country in the world today, US has it's head in a lot of foreign issues. It's not all bad, some of US's work is quite good.

But then there are dark spots that people aren't willing to let go. Think 9/11 for them, and you get their mind set.

[leo9]

How can the Americans charge him with espionage, if three million Americans already had privi to the same secrets? That has to be a bluff.

My mistake, not espionage, treason. Which is worse, in terms of the sentences available.

You might think that a Swedish citizen can't be charged with treason to America. But as I understand it, the guy who passed the files to him is in jail awaiting trial for treason (and being seriously abused there, but that's to be expected.) If there is a prima facie case that Assange invited him to do so, rather than simply being given the disc out of the blue, he can be charged as an accessory.

[thir]

I wouldn't call it picking. Picking on someone is when they are being abused for simply existing.

That is what I thought..?

US on the other hand doesn't simply exist. More then any other country in the world today, US has it's head in a lot of foreign issues. It's not all bad, some of US's work is quite good.

No country simply exists - every country has it involvment to a smaller or larger extent, good and bad. US is a very big country, therefore with lots of involvment, good and bad, and therefore with lots of comments. To complain about that is illogical.