Quote Originally Posted by leo9 View Post
Most of the new leaders of Muslim fundamentalism (and terrorism) are not poor and uneducated, as Thorne would argue: they're from the upper-middle class of the oil-rich nations (and of Europe's Muslim immigrants). They argue that they've been offered Western-style materialism, and found it worthless.
Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
It is.
It is? Really? Having a choice is worthless? Having economic safety is worthless? Having more or less achieved equality for women and men is worthless? Having a life expectancy of 83,71 years (for Swiss women in the year 2008), most of them in pretty good health is worthless? Having the right to voice your opinion is worthless? Having the choice to believe or not believe and more or less be unmolested by those who believe the opposite is worthless?

You know, you don't HAVE to buy all the crap you probably COULD buy. Because, unlike a lot of people who don't live in Western-style materialism, you have a choice. Or several, even.

Plus, if it wasn't for that worthless Western-style materialism, those terrorists still would be screwing sheep in the Arabian desert. Those idiots can't even be terrorists without relying on what they despise so much.