Quote Originally Posted by MrEmann View Post
you are 100 % correct in your view. There are many "peer reviewed" publications that show the politics of "Global climate control" are suspicious at best.
The politics of ANYTHING are suspicious at best. That's because politicians are more interested in the next election than in the truth.

There are exists enough in the scientific community that do not agree with the policy of climate change at all.
And how many of these are actually climate scientists? Very few, in point of fact. And most of the controversy is not in whether climate change is occurring as in what is causing it. Would you accept the opinions of a TV weatherman regarding your recent X-rays, or would you prefer to see a real doctor? Why is it, then, that people are more willing to accept the opinions of astrologers on global climate change over those of actual climatologists?

Temperatures world wide have been decreasing over the last several years. This in fact is what changed "global warming" to "global climate change".
You are quite correct. This is exactly what has been happening. That's because climate is a complex system built of complex systems. Temperatures tend to go up and down cyclically. The problem is that the temperatures at the peak of the cycle have been getting slowly higher, while those at the trough of the cycle have not been getting as low as previous troughs. The trend is constantly upward.

you are also correct that in the 70s it was a new ice age that was going to kill us all. We would all be freezing to death. Now were are all going to bake to death.
And this is why climate hypotheses had to undergo revisions before eventually becoming climate theories. And most of that hoopla in the 70's was actually caused by media misunderstanding of actual claims. As has been happening recently, there was a decline in global temperatures during the 70's, and some media hack(s) misrepresented much of the science.

Those "leaders" that espouse this crap are ALL heavily invested in the going "green" economy. They will profit mightily of this comes to pass. In fact Al Gore, General Electric, etc will make profits that would make the "evil" oil companies envious. In fact pale in comparison to the record "obscene" profits that everyone seems to accuse the evil fat corporate oil companies for.
Which is another good reason for NOT paying much attention to political, media and industrial leaders and listening to scientists instead.

As for the destruction of this planet...IF every nuclear weapon in every arsenal were unleashed today, the planet would not be destroyed. Yeah life, as we know it would end. The planet itself would still be here. Humans simply cannot destroy this planet.
It's just as unlikely that humanity could destroy all life on the planet. We might destroy ourselves, though, or at least our civilization. It's possible we could reduce the human population to the point where we would become extinct. More likely, though, we will continue to evolve, becoming a different species altogether eventually.

Not bad enough we can't seem to keep jobs in this country. Let's punish and destroy the few we have left. Let's attack with impunity every job we can. Let's tax, regulate, and control via Congress and Senate , every aspect of a free economy. Until there is not longer a free economy. Yeah that will work in our favor.
While all this might be true, it has absolutely nothing to do with the SCIENCE of climate change. Only with the politics.

There is not one concrete piece of evidence that proves the threat of "global climate change", but hey we better address this now. BEFORE it's too late.
There are literally THOUSANDS of pieces of evidence which, when taken together, all point to gradually increasing global temperatures. Whether anything we do can actually help is a different story. My personal opinion is that it's too late for anything we do to make a significant difference.

"The sky is falling. The sky is falling." Seems I have read this story before.
Climate change has happened in the past and will undoubtedly happen in the future. It would be silly of us to dismiss the possibility that it could be happening now, especially when there is so much evidence to show that it IS happening now, and at an unprecedented rate. Whether or not humanity has caused it, it is happening. And human activity is certainly not helping to minimize the effects. Maybe there is nothing we can do to stop it. Especially if actually doing something would cause us any inconvenience. That would just be TOO much to ask, wouldn't it?