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    Another article came up with the same topic: 300,000 Babies Trafficked In Spain? http://www.care2.com/causes/300000-b...in.html?page=2

    There isn't much new in it, but these two points caught my attention:

    First: Quote from interview:
    In 1971 Manoli, who was 23 at the time and not long married, gave birth to what she was told was a healthy baby boy, but he was immediately taken away for what were called routine tests.

    Nine interminable hours passed. “Then, a nun, who was also a nurse, coldly informed me that my baby had died,” she says.

    They would not let her have her son’s body, nor would they tell her when the funeral would be.

    Did she not think to question the hospital staff?

    “Doctors, nuns?” she says, almost in horror. “I couldn’t accuse them of lying. This was Franco’s Spain. A dictatorship. Even now we Spaniards tend not to question authority.”


    She said: Even now we Spaniards tend not to question authority. But the regime fell in 1978 - 33 years ago! In other words, a generation ago and then some. The old people from then are gone, the most influental old, and a whole new generation have have grown up who has never known the facist regime. Even so!

    Consider how things have changed in those years in other countries - the 60's with rebellion against authority, the 70's with women's lib, the 80's with other kinds of youth culture, the 90's-20's the Y generation with electronics and conctact with the whole world. What has held back Spain, and why does the ghost of facism linger to this extent?
    How is it even possible?

    The other one:And In Argentina….Mothers Of the Plaza de Mayo

    All this is eerily reminiscent of Argentina, where the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo was formed by women who came together in the course of trying to find their missing sons and daughters, who were abducted by agents of the Argentine government during the years known as the Dirty War (1976–1983). As many as 30,000 children “disappeared” at this time, in exactly the same circumstances.


    Questions:

    Again, what is this obsession with abduction children?

    What is facism? There is some consensus on this, but also much disagreement, probably because various facist regimes are customized to various countries.

    What is it about obeying authorities, even to overruling something as basic as your own children?

    What is authority? Is there good and bad authority? Authority, as I see it, is not to do with the the authoritarians, but with the people who obey them. Why do they do that?

    Are there values so universal that all should adhere to them, forcibly if neccesary?
    Last edited by thir; 10-22-2011 at 03:40 AM.

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