Quote Originally Posted by Omega22 View Post
When we talk about rewards it should be something else than money. It can be satisfaction with your work and fame.
That will only take you so far. When you find yourself working long hours, sacrificing free time, and getting little more than the lazy neighbor next door, the satisfaction fades pretty quickly. And who needs fame?

you still have to work something or you will be bored to death. it is just that if you want something more than basic living conditions you need to work and feed those who are satisfied by that.
There are many ways to avoid boredom. And if you have to work to feed not only yourself but someone else boredom seems the lesser evil.

in other words it is taxing of greed. better living standards you require more taxes you pay.
And how do you pay those taxes without gaining any reward? I won't work to make just enough to survive, so that others can also survive. I don't mind paying my fair share, but not to waste it on derelicts and slackers.

we don't need to promote consumption we need to force people to lower their living requirements.
Why? So everyone can be miserable? The whole point of consumption is that it promotes better living conditions for all.

Don't buy all crap and there will be no need to make it.
Then there will be no jobs. More people sucking at the government teat.

So you can be lazy if someone wants lots of crap like IPad or plasma TV or big new car then he can donate something for others.
Forced taxation is far different than donations. Forced donations is simply taxation. Again, what's the benefit for the worker?

and what he is going to do with these raw resources? just dont let him to sell them and problem solved.
If he can't eat them, he'll trade them. With someone else who can't sell them. Don't tell me that there was no black market in the USSR.

also resources should be taxed, so if you hog something you pay.
Earning through your own labor is hardly hogging resources. One way or another you pay.

USSR had lots of problems but it also had lots of good stuff.
Like what?

today efficiency is improved in may orders of magnitude and everything is different.
Tell that to the people starving in North Korea. Tell that to the pre-capitalist Chinese. Any efficiency, whether in farming or manufacturing, has come from capitalist countries.

You have no choice. Capitalism is going to fail soon, or everything will turn into living hell.
Maybe so, but going back to an already failed system won't prevent that. The USSR was already a living hell before the collapse.