One thing I am especially interested in is the connection of BDSM with love. If you have a relationship which is far along the contiinum of PE, can your still be in control if you love your sub/slave? We have had problems discussed here that would seem to say 'no'. Is this true?

There are those who prefer a relationship complete seperated from an everyday life, and also from love because, as they put it, 'love would spoil it'. It would kill the control and the sex. The main things is to control and being controlled, to be allowed to be submissive.

So, what is it with D/s and love? How do you do it? How much do you need to know each other? How much would you need to know about D/s? It it actually better for some not to have love involved?

The topic comes up in relationships where the slave gets the upper hand, or where the dom/mme cannot make themselves be strict or harsh enough (if that be needed) because of love. Perhaps most especially if you find our about this in the middle or a non-bdsm relationship.

Also where the interest is in anonymous scenes, or scenes with many participants.

Any thoughts on this?