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    Nothing wrong with being provocative. And in any case, isn't it provocative to suggest individuals committing criminal acts are exonerated by virtue of their being at war? I think it is. If you feel insulted by my comment, then that's your problem - I note you have found other people's points of view personally objectionable before, e.g., post 32 above. I intended you no offence, I simply pointed out that if you can forgive one criminal act because it was committed in wartime, then why not all wartime crimes?

    Furthermore, I reject your assertion that the Holocaust was committed by a government policy while other atrocities were committed by individuals in the heat of battle. The pissing on dead bodies by US marines recently was done shortly after the battle, not during it. The Srebrenica massacre was pre-planned. Carthage was razed to the ground as an act of cold-blooded genocidal revenge. But it would be pleaded afterwards by those participating that they did it "while their blood was up". It was individual Nazis who killed the communists, homosexuals and Jews during WWII, not a decree.

    Emptying a machine-gun into one individual, or stabbing him a hundred times are the sort of acts one would see "in the heat of battle", but they are not justifiable because they were frenzied or for any other reason.

    I think my comment was valid.
    Last edited by MMI; 02-02-2012 at 06:07 PM.

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