Gun History

[nk_lion]

Perhaps someone let me know, to own a gun in US, do you need to attend any type of classes or get some license to own one?

[Guest 91108]

Not in this State of SC, NK.
for handguns ... You must be 21 years old, a non-felon, you must have a background check ( ie. 5 day wait) unless you possess a CCW/CWP.
For rifles and shotguns the age is 19 I think, and fill out proper paperwork, been so long since i bought a rifle I don't know if they do a background check for a rifle or not. They used to not.
The only thing class wise mandatory at this point is any hunter born after 1986 must attend Hunter's Ed a class mostly on state laws and hunting morals to obtain hunting permit.

[nk_lion]

What does a background check include and what's a CCW and CWP?

Reasoning for thsis question is because my old boss told me something a while back that struck a cord with me.
He, btw was a big supporter of gun ownership, and the right to bear arms. And was talking specifically about Canada.

He mentioned that to get a full driver's license in Ontario, you have to first study and do a written test, get a learners permit to which you are allowed to drive with a lot of restrictions. After 8 months, and recommended 5 day in-class lessons and driving practise, you get your second license, and finally at any point after then you have to go for another test to finally get your permanent license. All for driving a car.

Gun laws require a simple registery and no classes of any kind. Now those who obey the laws won't go on a gun rampage. But to me it makes more sense having some type of mandatory gun ownership classes, maybe a pych evaluation as well. Perhaps some lessons that will also include protecting your gun so that there are less illegal ones on the street.

I personally support the ability to own guns on the basis that it can be used for sport, and not for self defence. After all isn't that the beauty of democracy, if you feel the government is doing something wrong, you can take a stand using words not violence.

[Guest 91108]

A Background check is a SLED ( State Law Enforcement Division) check to see if your name/id/Info is in the nicks system. if so you are denied.
CCW/CWP is a license to carry a concealed handgun upon your person.

I disagree with your reasons to/for ownership; but that is enough to say at this place.

[cadence]

What does a background check include and what's a CCW and CWP?

Reasoning for thsis question is because my old boss told me something a while back that struck a cord with me.
He, btw was a big supporter of gun ownership, and the right to bear arms. And was talking specifically about Canada.

He mentioned that to get a full driver's license in Ontario, you have to first study and do a written test, get a learners permit to which you are allowed to drive with a lot of restrictions. After 8 months, and recommended 5 day in-class lessons and driving practise, you get your second license, and finally at any point after then you have to go for another test to finally get your permanent license. All for driving a car.

Gun laws require a simple registery and no classes of any kind. Now those who obey the laws won't go on a gun rampage. But to me it makes more sense having some type of mandatory gun ownership classes, maybe a pych evaluation as well. Perhaps some lessons that will also include protecting your gun so that there are less illegal ones on the street.

I personally support the ability to own guns on the basis that it can be used for sport, and not for self defence. After all isn't that the beauty of democracy, if you feel the government is doing something wrong, you can take a stand using words not violence.

Actually NK, I understand the comparison with driving tests, but there is a bit more to it than registering your gun.


While there are no official classes to obtain a gun in Canada, you are required to write an FAC, in order to purchase one. There are two tests, one with fifty or so multiple questions, and then on to a demo, where you prove you can handle a firearm. I am unsure though if the testing is still the same now.

There are background checks as well.
And if you do not lock up your guns and ammunition properly, you can be charged, even if they are stolen.

If you want to take possesion of, or own a gun, you need to have a PAL (Possession and Licence) another test, but I am uncertain as to what the test involves.

You need an FAC to buy a gun, and a PAL in order to keep them, due to the new gun registry.
If the person who now owns and buys a gun, wants to go hunting with it, they must take a week long course on gun saftey, and hunting regulations.

[Platonicus]

At any rate, God created men and Mr. Colt made them equal

[bthest]

Not in this State of SC, NK.
for handguns ... You must be 21 years old, a non-felon, you must have a background check ( ie. 5 day wait) unless you possess a CCW/CWP.
For rifles and shotguns the age is 19 I think, and fill out proper paperwork, been so long since i bought a rifle I don't know if they do a background check for a rifle or not. They used to not.

There are national instant background checks for both rifles and handguns through out the US (federal law). You also have to fill out 4473 form (also federal law). Felons don't get any firearm, period.

All of it is useless of course and does not stop or even slow down criminals in the slightest which makes me wonder why we don't just go back to following the US constitution?

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

And do away with all of these federal laws.

[Warbaby1943]

And do away with all of these federal laws.

Agreed but then what would we as citizens and tax payers spend all our money on if we didn't have the government to waste it all?

[Guest 91108]

bthest.. in SC if you have a CWP, you are exempt from background check.
Fill out 4473 form yes. call it in .. nope. smiles.

[nk_lion]

I disagree with your reasons to/for ownership; but that is enough to say at this place.

I respect that, I haven't lived long enough to really worry about the existance of guns yet, but I have heard of stories where gun ownership with the purpose of self defence has saved lives.

[nia25]

Agreed but then what would we as citizens and tax payers spend all our money on if we didn't have the government to waste it all?

People on Welfare (who abuse it)... but that's another thread! lol

[Ozme52]

Actually, it's been positted that if we didn't administer the welfare programs... just gave it to anyone who said they needed it... we'd save enough money to pay for the extra claims, and have enough left over to repair most of the national infrastructure.

Governnemt = waste.

[cariad]

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Looking in from the other side of the pond...

Did that not mean that people were given a right to bear arms to protect The state, not that they have a right to bear arms to protect their own their own private and personal state?

cariad

[Guest 91108]

Nope, courts have ruled that it means protection at all three levels.
If they are not safe in their homes.. they can't protect local, state or federal.

[Euryleia]

Perhaps someone let me know, to own a gun in US, do you need to attend any type of classes or get some license to own one?

I only know about the states where I've had residency. I'm a gun owner and the only state I ever had to get a license to own was California. I also had to pass a basic firearm safety class. In Alabama, you do have to pass a class to get a hunting license (that includes firearm safety) but don't have to do anything to own a firearm. There wasn't even a wait period for my most recent purchase in Louisiana--the gun store had a shooting club attached and so it was considered a 'private sale.'

[Euryleia]

At any rate, God created men and Mr. Colt made them equal

The way I heard it was:
God created men and women equal and Swith and Wesson makes damn sure it stays that way.

[Platonicus]

The way I heard it was:
God created men and women equal and Smith and Wesson makes damn sure it stays that way.

Well, admittedly I haven't heard it that way, but as the sentiments your alternative expresses do have the cetain ring of truth to them, I won't discount it. And candidly, I wouldn't wish to disagree with one whom I find to be so affable.

[Euryleia]

Well, admittedly I haven't heard it that way, but as the sentiments your alternative expresses do have the cetain ring of truth to them, I won't discount it. And candidly, I wouldn't wish to disagree with one whom I find to be so affable.

Aw, shucks.

[Warbaby1943]

Heard a great quote in my CWP renewal calss today. It went something like this. "Don't let carrying a weapon give you a false sense of security."

I think that says a lot.