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    Although you "paid" in you didn't really "earn" anything for those payments. Since you were not really buying something, you were being taxed by the Government to fund a benefit program.

    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    I take exception o this, I worked my entire life, I paid into the system for over 40 years
    I am now disabled, unable medicaly to work, yes I recieive Socialy Security Disability and Assistance from my state for Food, but I EARNED the right to do so, I have never not worked becuse I am or was Lazy, I am under the careof Docotors
    So please do not say those who live "off the Goverment" are lazy, mos tof us are not I paid inot the system and are simply getting back what I paid in FICA Taxes for over 40 years,yes there are some out that that are lazy, that find it easier to live off the system but please do not say ALL those ho recieive Social Secirty Diability, or Retirment Pay or Food Stamps are lazy, not having been in that situation you can not place everyone who is in the same boat
    That is tenamount to sayig all people of a certain Ethnicity are bad because of a few select one,s not ALL whitesae bad, not all Blacks are bad not ALL Muslims are Radical lke those responsable for 911
    Base pepole on who they are and not the class or Ethnicity they come from

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    Although you "paid" in you didn't really "earn" anything for those payments. Since you were not really buying something, you were being taxed by the Government to fund a benefit program.
    I have always looked at it more as a forced savings account, which is more or less what it was intended to be. The actuality? Far different, sadly.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Agreed! Which is why there is always an argument. What it IS vs What was INTENDED. Seems like there is a party that wants credit, and to be the "good guys", based on what they intended to do rather then what they accomplish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I have always looked at it more as a forced savings account, which is more or less what it was intended to be. The actuality? Far different, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    I have always looked at it more as a forced savings account, which is more or less what it was intended to be. The actuality? Far different, sadly.
    Unfortunately, many people have this misunderstanding. It was never intended, nor practiced as a forced savings account. It has always been a pay as you go collection and distribution system with no actual accounts assigned nor assets accumulated in any individual's name. There is no Social Security Trust account; it is simply a collection of Treasury Notes giving the SS system the right to retrieve the excess collections that the congress siphoned away. In its simplest terms it is a government operated Ponzi scheme. Always has been and will be until it is changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    Although you "paid" in you didn't really "earn" anything for those payments. Since you were not really buying something, you were being taxed by the Government to fund a benefit program.
    Yes I earned the righttheright to get my benefits that come with the FICA Tax Deduction, my point was simply oto say that some peoplewho recieive Socialy Security, Food Stamps Legitmately get them, and itis not a case of them or me justbeing LAZYand not wanting to work
    If you invest in a Comay by buying stock inthem, you haveearned theright to the divident you get back
    But to say those wgho reveivie Siclay Security or Food Stampsare simply to lazyto work, I find that very wrong, I worked my entire life well over 40 years
    Yes I did buy someting, i bough the righ to have Medical Insurance when I stopped working, by my FICA Dedcution weekly
    My FICA decition was to insure I recieived money when I did stop working, like if you buy an insurance policy through and insurance company, say auto insurance, you pay a semi annual premium forthat you gt into a car accidfent, you pay the deductable buttheinsurance company pays most of thecostofrepairs, my FICA paymeny insures me the say righ,ti can't wrok i go to my "Insurance Polivy" via my FICA paymentys and they pay for what i need to me Scialy Swecirty and my FICA paymentst are no different then the premium you pay for health, auto or life insurance,
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    Yes I earned the righttheright to get my benefits that come with the FICA Tax Deduction, my point was simply oto say that some peoplewho recieive Socialy Security, Food Stamps Legitmately get them, and itis not a case of them or me justbeing LAZYand not wanting to work
    If you invest in a Comay by buying stock inthem, you haveearned theright to the divident you get back
    But to say those wgho reveivie Siclay Security or Food Stampsare simply to lazyto work, I find that very wrong, I worked my entire life well over 40 years
    Yes I did buy someting, i bough the righ to have Medical Insurance when I stopped working, by my FICA Dedcution weekly
    My FICA decition was to insure I recieived money when I did stop working, like if you buy an insurance policy through and insurance company, say auto insurance, you pay a semi annual premium forthat you gt into a car accidfent, you pay the deductable buttheinsurance company pays most of thecostofrepairs, my FICA paymeny insures me the say righ,ti can't wrok i go to my "Insurance Polivy" via my FICA paymentys and they pay for what i need to me Scialy Swecirty and my FICA paymentst are no different then the premium you pay for health, auto or life insurance,
    Corrrct and that Benefit Program that I HELPED fun I am now using

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    Responding to your own posts???

    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    Corrrct and that Benefit Program that I HELPED fun I am now using

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    Responding to your own posts???
    No to a reply to my post ,failed to put their quote in sorry

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    It just looked funny!

    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    No to a reply to my post ,failed to put their quote in sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    Yes I did buy someting, i bough the righ to have Medical Insurance when I stopped working, by my FICA Dedcution weekly
    No! You did not buy anything. Your were taxed to fund a Government benefit program!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post
    No! You did not buy anything. Your were taxed to fund a Government benefit program!
    Twisting words as I see it. I too have payed taxes all my life (haven't we all?) and a lot of them, and I expect to get back what I need when I need it. That is the deal.

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    This I can agree with you! But the problem is that is the Government that decides IF you get anything & how much!

    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Twisting words as I see it. I too have payed taxes all my life (haven't we all?) and a lot of them, and I expect to get back what I need when I need it. That is the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrictMasterD View Post
    my FICA paymentst are no different then the premium you pay for health, auto or life insurance,
    Again with those other things you actually have a vested interest in them. With SS you do not have any interest in it at all.

    Can you will you SS benefits to your heirs?

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