Quote Originally Posted by Timberwolf View Post
"The basic points of the conversation is that what bothers them the most about gorean philosophy is that it is to structured for them. They do not want a relationship based on protocol since it is to much trouble. They basically don't want to play by set rules but to just make it up as they go along."


"My problem isn't the rules of Gor per se (as I understand them), more the rigidity of saying "This is the only basic format acceptable if you want to call yourself Gorean". For me the entire point is finding a structure that works for the individual. Wide, sweeping conclusions about "what works" are by default, destined to fail when put under scrutiny, sexual philosophy or otherwise."
"My problem isn't the rules of Gor per se (as I understand them), more the rigidity of saying "This is the only basic format acceptable if you want to call yourself Gorean". For me the entire point is finding a structure that works for the individual. Wide, sweeping conclusions about "what works" are by default, destined to fail when put under scrutiny, sexual philosophy or otherwise."

Well, I may just be lashed to a Tarn saddle and flown off to die in the Sardars, or perhaps a harsher fate and returned to Earth, but I believe Master and I are living our union are Goreans with a flexability that I have never found to be unacceptable to fellow Goreans at all. At least those I know that have truly embraced the principles of the philosophy taken from the books and not those that have one; learned all of Gor from role play and bogus sites and never even cracked open a Norman book, or two; have a little leaf urt roaming their brains and truly believe there is a planet Gor and that someday they will ride a Tarn. NOT that there is anything wrong with that, mind you (before I am accused of being a rigid, judgemental Gorean) but those folk are the only ones have had problems with in the past.
I am sure that there are those amongst other Goreans that would cringe at the fact that I am neither free companion nor kajira, but a combination of both. That is how my Warrior wants it and that is how it will be! To me THAT is Gorean.

"How important is discipline (rules, protocols, etc.) in a BDSM relationship? Is it just something that you only want to impose in the play room or should it be part of the whole lifestyle.""

I live by Master's discipline 24/7. It is my life. It is what I accepted when I begged his collar. Yes it has to be watered down on "the outside" and of course I am not waiting at the door each evening naked with my leash in my mouth. I am not shared amongst his friends (yet *giggle*) and he forbids me to be branded. I have been subjected to discipline straight from the books at times, of course. It is a harsher union, yes. "Aftercare" for me is often being permitted to have a drink of water when I am getting one for him after we have had a session. A Gorean Master can be gruff and seem unromantic at times but also just like the books, when a Gorean Master hugs and cuddles his girl , it is the most anazing thing on earth. And again, remember this is real life. My Gorean Warrior is also the port in all of my storms, my shoulder to cry on, the one I laugh (and cry) hardest with, my most fierce protector and my very best friend. There are many days the Gorean firmness is put on a back burner because I need more nilla at the moment. It is a discipline of my heart and soul, not just the whip. And for the record, I consider myself more D/s than BDSM. If I had to pick one over the other, I would have to pick a D/s life without the "play" of BDSM. It is what fulfills me and makes me complete. I am not ashamed to be a Gorean woman; I am damn proud of it! I also think everyone has the right to live this D/s or BDSM lifestyle in whatever way fulfills them too, no matter how "different" it may seem. I have always felt that way about religion, and that is how I feel about this. Just my 40 or 50 copper tarns worth... ~blizz~