my friend I did not say they were the end ---but for a newbie I feel it is the way to go ---and if a sub is in sub-space then no or stop will not be uttered that is the level of trust and known comfort levels between and experienced dom and an experienced sub ---not many newbie subs are going into deep sub space ----
we do agree safety is a big issue and to be careful ---that is enough for me
we are all trying to help a new sub in our own way ----
and yes by all means be careful picking a Dom ----there are alot of want to be Dom on this board ---who want nothing but a web cam sex show ---and when they are done they drop you like a hot potatoe -----they should be concerned about you and your comfort levels ----bring you in slowly ----
I wonder about the ones that the first thing they want is to see you naked before trying to get to know you ----and it happens ---I get emails and PMs every day from subs this happens to
now you see that maybe different Doms do things differently and that is OK just as long as they have your safety in mind