but isnt the pain humiliation and that type of punishment part of your play? not say a punishment because you refused to do the dishes or something?
whilst i might be spaced out on pain,humiliation,punishment during play those same actions given as non-play punishment hurt way too much physically,mentally and emotionally and they even make me feel sick.
for me feeling guilty,bad and disappointed isnt a very good prelude to playing anyway,whatever my love of pain.