annie encapsulated it all,for me anyway.

its something ive never do,push for a punishment...i mean why the hell would i want that!
the few punishments ive had other than one particularly nasty time with the crop,and the odd spank if im in little mode, have been punishments to fit the crime wherever possible,sometimes no eye contacted like Hime or being ignored for a short while..worst one of all.

the one time i did do was right at the very beginning and was naivly listening to wonderful advice,dos and donts from other subs was when he'd had a particularly bad day at work and was p***d off was to wind him up some more stupidly believing that it would lead him into 'taking it out' on me and help with the frustration,when all i had to do really was offer him was listen to him,offer a massage,dress extra nice for him etc... err duuh lol when he realised he wasnt impressed he explained to me that he would never ever punish me or even play while in a bad mood (which was in our contract anyway) and id wound him up even more and though he understood why id offended him because in a way by my reasoning behind it,it was almost like accusing him of being an abuser.

boy did i feel dumb lol although we did laugh about it later and ive never done it since.