maybe it's just me, but NOWHERE in the definition of punishment is the word *enjoyable*. True punishment is meant to be something that can be learned from so that the same mistake is not repeated, not something that one would want to continue to do over and over again. And as usual, i agree with gem that upsetting, disappointing, or angering one's Dom, should be punishment enough for a sub that truly centers her world around Him....making sure that He is pleased above all things. The thought of His disappointment should be enough to put a sub into her own 'self-imposed'
punishment.

And in the same context, i understand the idea of punishment in play as well. But in this context, the sub accepts the punishment because it is PLEASING to her Dom for her to do so, therefore also pleasurable to the sub.

So no, can't say i understand subs who are constantly looking to be punished. i liked the comment about topping from the bottom that i read above. Very applicable here i think.