What a wonderful post, as a newbie I have already encountered this, thankfully I have made a few friends who pointed out the way. Wouldn't it be wondeful if there was a prerequisite for new subbies before they entered chat? Something in the line of a training post and to let us know the "proper procedure"? Everyone is so afraid of looking like a fool that we often go against our better judgement. It's good to know that there are doms who are willing to stand up and say this isn't the way to go. Thank you for this helpful post.