Quote Originally Posted by Veronika View Post

That implies then that we are not talking about a hobby that can be compared to playing golf, rather than something deeply personal and important. Kind of like religion?
no, as ive said, its a lifestyle, a choice...def not a religion

its about a relationship between people who have like-minded views...a relationship similar to a 'vanilla' lifestyle but with a few more extremes, more pain and in my opinion more fun and meaning.