Waterboarding Hyprocrisy

[denuseri]

Actually:

I should have just said white instead of cuacasian shouldnt I, guess I couldnt keep you from trying to dance around it yet again the way I worded it orginally.

The question is do we in the USA think its ok to use on other than "white" people.

Many interogators, former cia members and those who train our military to resist such means of torture have said that water boarding does not in fact produce good inteligence, in fact the victums of it have a tendency to say anything you want them too to simpley make it stop and that there are far far better ways to get real information without resorting to such criminal methods.

And water boarding can and does harm, even permamently, in fact it can kill a person.

People have suffered everything from long term phcological disorders from it (including PTSD) to in some cases broken bones (as they thrashed uncontrolabely trying to get free during the torture sesssion), and heart attacks and yes even sometimes death.

[damyanti]

In the time it took me to prepare this page for response the language has been controlled.
However, the claim you make below it totally with out either substance or merit.
It is liberals that have driven the creation of the need for virtually every venue have signage in multiple languages, not the conservative. Such signage does nothing to bring people into the mainstream of the community in which they live, it merely serves to allow the separateness to become entrenched. Conservative position is to have all of the people that desire to come here to become a part of a homogenous whole. Such a whole is much stronger than the sum of its parts. To constantly make effort to display differences prevents the parts from melding into the unique entity it could be.
People are not label Socialist because they disagree, but because they advocate taking from those that produce and giving it to those that do not! Un-American is reserved for those seeking to tear the country down.

What are you...Borg? LOL

Two things, 1) Conservatives do not have the monopoly on being American and 2) Un-American is reserved for those seeking to tear the country down? Can you possibly make a more incorrect statement about the History of how U.S. came to be?

The first residents of what is now the United States immigrated from Asia prior to 15,000 years ago by crossing Beringia into Alaska. So, by your own standards, that means you are not a real American, lol.

Then came the handsome Norse fellow by the name Leif Ericson, followed by that pesky Italian working for the Spanish crown. Then came the The Thirteen British and settlements by Spain, France and Russia. Then came the steady steady flows of immigrants from Europe as well as slaves from the West Indies....etc etc.

And as any first grader knows...most of those people were rejects, independent spirits, criminals, religious folks looking for a safe way to worship...and so bent of never having to live in a country where anyone tries to homogenize them again, that they created a pesky little document called The Constitution.

But good luck with your homogeneous whole politics.....as we know historically that tends to end well.

[DuncanONeil]

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What are you...Borg? LOL

I don't believe so!

[B][COLOR="Magenta"]Two things, 1) Conservatives do not have the monopoly on being American and 2) Un-American is reserved for those seeking to tear the country down? Can you possibly make a more incorrect statement about the History of how U.S. came to be?

I did not see anything in the quote of mine that was in your message about history. And I actually said myself that; "Un-American is reserved for those seeking to tear the country down?"

I have never made assertions as to who is American or un-American. As to the history comment I will have to come back to that.

[B][COLOR="Magenta"]The first residents of what is now the United States immigrated from Asia prior to 15,000 years ago by crossing Beringia into Alaska. So, by your own standards, that means you are not a real American, lol.

Really!? How do you define a real American?

[B][COLOR="Magenta"]Then came the handsome Norse fellow by the name Leif Ericson, followed by that pesky Italian working for the Spanish crown. Then came the The Thirteen British and settlements by Spain, France and Russia. Then came the steady steady flows of immigrants from Europe as well as slaves from the West Indies....etc etc.

You forgot Vespuccia. BTW Chris did not make the mainland.

[B][COLOR="Magenta"]And as any first grader knows...most of those people were rejects, independent spirits, criminals, religious folks looking for a safe way to worship...and so bent of never having to live in a country where anyone tries to homogenize them again, that they created a pesky little document called The Constitution.

Pesky little document?? Why would yo say that?

But good luck with your homogeneous whole politics.....as we know historically that tends to end well.

Not sure I suggested that, but we also know how the current direction of the current administration goes as well.
I said nothing about "homogeneous whole politics".

[DuncanONeil]

The issue is that save for Blacks and Asian it can be very hard to tell who is white and and something "else".
I do not believe that it is a "white" "non-white" issue.
As for the comment about waterboarding producing bad info. Reports about 'boarding are that it was used to initiate talking. The actionable intelligence was determined after by other means.

The original comment is based in the believe that "torture" produces no actionable intell. It may it may not. But to make such a claim also presupposes that anything gleaned by the so-called "enhanced" techniques is accepted by and of itself.

Actually:

I should have just said white instead of cuacasian shouldnt I, guess I couldnt keep you from trying to dance around it yet again the way I worded it orginally.

The question is do we in the USA think its ok to use on other than "white" people.out waterboarding

Many interogators, former cia members and those who train our military to resist such means of torture have said that water boarding does not in fact produce good inteligence, in fact the victums of it have a tendency to say anything you want them too to simpley make it stop and that there are far far better ways to get real information without resorting to such criminal methods.

And water boarding can and does harm, even permamently, in fact it can kill a person.

People have suffered everything from long term phcological disorders from it (including PTSD) to in some cases broken bones (as they thrashed uncontrolabely trying to get free during the torture sesssion), and heart attacks and yes even sometimes death.