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    The problem is that, being individuals, we can not agree on what torture actually is.
    If you can not have a common definition you can not have a reasoned discussion.


    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post
    Just want to say, as a mod, that this type of post ^ is exactly what I personally would like to see more of.

    A thoughtful restating/clarification of position, without any attacks, and then some questions that seek to challenge (perhaps even understand?) the other viewpoint.

    My sincere gratitude to those posting in this thread, and really all threads, that are on topic and off each others cases!

    And I'd answer those questions if I could, but I don't support water boarding or any form of torture that is non consensual

    Respectfully,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanONeil View Post

    If you can not have a common definition you can not have a reasoned discussion.

    Following this line of reasoning, to me, equates to saying there is no such thing as a reasoned discussion.

    Language is relatively agreed symbolism, fact is even simple symbols such as "red" or "hot" or "good" are defined uniquely by all of us, based on our perception, genetics, experiences and conditioning.

    What is a human to do?

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    “Knowing others is wisdom; Knowing the self is enlightenment; Mastering others requires force; Mastering the self requires strength”

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    Quote Originally Posted by TantricSoul View Post

    Following this line of reasoning, to me, equates to saying there is no such thing as a reasoned discussion.

    Language is relatively agreed symbolism, fact is even simple symbols such as "red" or "hot" or "good" are defined uniquely by all of us, based on our perception, genetics, experiences and conditioning.

    What is a human to do?

    Respectfully,
    TS

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