Is Obama a Socialist?

[MMI]

No, den. Colhoun, if he is to be believed, said "a bare majority (of the white population) at best" supported the revolution, not 80%. The 15-20% number is his, I agree, leaving up to 35% neutral.

The point I was making (I don't know what a Progressive is anyway) was that political transformations are good or bad, according to your perspective, but your perspective is not everyone else's (unless you have conducted an impartial survey and have established that it is, as a fact). To me, a socialist president would be a good thing for America (probably) and for the rest of the world (certainly), and if anyone can effect such a transformation, he has my support.

I do not belong to any world-wide conspiracy, by the way.

Perhaps there are some people who would see a transformation to fascism as a good thing.

If the leader wishes to effect such a change, and can command the electoral support to do so, then the transformation is legitimate, and no amount of bad-tempered whingeing can change it.

[steelish]

To me, a socialist president would be a good thing for America (probably) and for the rest of the world (certainly), and if anyone can effect such a transformation, he has my support.

Yes, I can see how many non-Americans (and, unfortunately, even some Americans) would LOVE to see America collapse. I guess for some, it would be poetic justice.

Just one glaring difference - when America declared independence it did not cause the collapse of the nation it was leaving. It simply severed itself from that government and instituted it's own. What the Progressives are doing is trying to collapse the country...to bring about it's economic doom. Did the King's economy collapse when America declared independence? Did the country fall into ruin? Nope.

One thing to remember...if America collapses economically, don't be surprised if other countries follow suit.

[DuncanONeil]

Good Response!!

Yes, I can see how many non-Americans (and, unfortunately, even some Americans) would LOVE to see America collapse. I guess for some, it would be poetic justice.

Just one glaring difference - when America declared independence it did not cause the collapse of the nation it was leaving. It simply severed itself from that government and instituted it's own. What the Progressives are doing is trying to collapse the country...to bring about it's economic doom. Did the King's economy collapse when America declared independence? Did the country fall into ruin? Nope.

One thing to remember...if America collapses economically, don't be surprised if other countries follow suit.