So bestiality is the same as murder? That is a rather acrobatic line of semantics itself! If anything that seems objectionable to another is to be forbidden, then this forum will be vacated rather suddenly. This thread has been open for over three years; many have expressed dislike for bestiality, others have supported it. So do we draw the line at rope, but not steel? Whips no longer than 21.5"? Horses but not dogs? Much of the behavior discussed on this forum is illegal in some areas. In other places it is displayed openly. The bigger question becomes WHO gets to draw WHAT line.