Suggestions, advice and general help.

[Sir_nv]

I have a rather strange BDSM playdate set up. My ex girl and I are on very good terms and are both unattached since we broke up a few months back. So when I mentioned that I was developing an interest in BDSM and shared some stuff with her, she was very enthusiastic about it. She wants to try it out and trusts me and knows she will be safe with me.

But she is my ex. So all the relationship issues aside, the conditions are these:
1. I can't kiss her on the lips
2. Nothing touches her pussy except rope which I use to tie her up. I'm not allowed to finger her, lick her, no insertions nothing.
3. Nothing up her ass.
4. None of my clothes come off.
5. No zappers.

The whole idea behind this is of course that she doesn't want me to have sex with her. So its a game where she has to control her desire, and I have to break her to beg me to fuck her. I know she would make an awesome submissive, from the light play we indulged in while we were together. Oh and I get 24 hours at her where I can tie her up in as many ways as I want and do whatever. So I already have some ideas, such as your basic flogging, spanking, bondage, tits and ass torture.

I'd like to come up with more ways to seduce her, she has a massive libido and is still physically very attracted to me. Any ideas experienced Doms?

[Barbara4]

I have a rather strange BDSM playdate set up. My ex girl and I are on very good terms and are both unattached since we broke up a few months back. So when I mentioned that I was developing an interest in BDSM and shared some stuff with her, she was very enthusiastic about it. She wants to try it out and trusts me and knows she will be safe with me.

But she is my ex. So all the relationship issues aside, the conditions are these:
1. I can't kiss her on the lips
2. Nothing touches her pussy except rope which I use to tie her up. I'm not allowed to finger her, lick her, no insertions nothing.
3. Nothing up her ass.
4. None of my clothes come off.
5. No zappers.

The whole idea behind this is of course that she doesn't want me to have sex with her. So its a game where she has to control her desire, and I have to break her to beg me to fuck her. I know she would make an awesome submissive, from the light play we indulged in while we were together. Oh and I get 24 hours at her where I can tie her up in as many ways as I want and do whatever. So I already have some ideas, such as your basic flogging, spanking, bondage, tits and ass torture.

I'd like to come up with more ways to seduce her, she has a massive libido and is still physically very attracted to me. Any ideas experienced Doms?

I think a session of breast torture would make her reconsider her refusal to have sex with you. Nipple clamps. slapping (hard), squeezing & milking (again very hard) stretching & twisting is very painful. A nice beating with a belt or strap might also make her beg to be fucked to stop the pain. There are numerous other more harsh & painful procedures that can be done to her tits but she does not sound as if she is ready for such pain although I think it'd certainly break her & having her beg to be fucked. Keep us posted on your progress.

[Ozme52]

From direct experience, if you tie her in a standard rope body harness, with crotch rope, one that will slowly tighten if you grasp it elsewhere, you will soon have her fucking the rope.

If you restrain her arms to boot, she will have no relief but to beg you for her orgasm.

Personally, I like double coin knots up the front, split square knots on the back, and a nice fat square knot on the clit. Later, when she relents, you can relocate that knot a bit higher and use the opening to insert and secure some sort of nasty vibrator. A dragonfly armbinding will not only restrain her arms, but combined with the body harness, will leave her somewhat breathless.

Check out two knotty boys (tkb dot com) for video downloads of the knots and bindings.

[Sir_nv]

Thanks guys! Especially for the website, I've been looking for something like that for a while. And I do intend to torture her breasts and ass into submission. I'm thinking of trying techniques which are sensual along with being painful. If I can switch between the tenderness and pain, I'm sure I'll have her begging in a while.

[maryrobyn]

Thanks guys! Especially for the website, I've been looking for something like that for a while. And I do intend to torture her breasts and ass into submission. I'm thinking of trying techniques which are sensual along with being painful. If I can switch between the tenderness and pain, I'm sure I'll have her begging in a while.

I agree that breast torture is the way to go to break her. She does not sound like she is very experienced so you can't burn her breasts or such, so will have to stay with the beating & rough handling. Pull those nipples til they are really stretched, that will get her attention.
Hard slapping, really hard til they turn red is another option. She will realize that being fucked by you will be more desirable than her tits being mauled & in agony.

[Sir_nv]

Yes, she isn't very experienced, so we won't be going into anything too extreme. However rough handling is definitely on the cards. Also, I'm a bit confused about the approach. She is a very sexual person. Tying her up, the suggestion of violence, etc. turn her on a lot. So should I try to break her by turning her on so much her pussy begs to be touched or do I make her submit through sheer pain. I'm thinking its the gentle caress after the whip hits which will really break her :P

[denuseri]

<< Wonders why one would wish to "break" her at all

[sera]

<< Wonders why one would wish to "break" her at all

Sounds to me like she set some limits and he's trying to figure out how to get her to drop them.

But she is my ex. So all the relationship issues aside, the conditions are these:
1. I can't kiss her on the lips
2. Nothing touches her pussy except rope which I use to tie her up. I'm not allowed to finger her, lick her, no insertions nothing.
3. Nothing up her ass.
4. None of my clothes come off.
5. No zappers.

The whole idea behind this is of course that she doesn't want me to have sex with her. So its a game where she has to control her desire, andI have to break her to beg me to fuck her.

[Sir_nv]

<< Wonders why one would wish to "break" her at all

Let me clarify the terminology, by break her I don't mean make her have a breakdown or something damaging or permanent. She is an intensely sexual person. There have been days when she has been wet the whole day by just being next to me. Now she really wants to try out some kinky stuff, and trusts me to keep her safe and happy. But, since I broke up with her and we're not dating, one of her conditions is no sex. I know her body will want it, I just want to turn her on so much that she can't help but plead for it.

[sera]

And when she does start pleading for it, are you planning to disregard the limits she set when she was thinking rationally and give it to her? Or will you just enjoy the begging and then after playing discuss the possibility of dropping those limits the next time?

[Sir_nv]

And when she does start pleading for it, are you planning to disregard the limits she set when she was thinking rationally and give it to her? Or will you just enjoy the begging and then after playing discuss the possibility of dropping those limits the next time?

Well, I was worried about the exact same thing. So I brought it up today when we were on the phone, and in all but so many words she said that if I can get her to plead, I can have it. Those limits are more to restrict what I can do to get her to plead. We've known each other for over 3 years now, so I'm gonna go with that for the moment. Before we actually start the scene(s) I will ask her explicitly of course, and at the end of the day, I do have to respect her limits.