So you do not agree even with your own past statements conserning the english language then?

Are we back to beating a dead horse?

Do you agree that atheism is an idea?

That the idea is...there are no god/s? (which is exactly the same as having the idea of "your idea that there is a god/s is a false one". Basic english 101 here remember.

See when you say your trying to say that aethism is nothing more than a statement of dis-belief just becuase you dont like the word belief...I see that what your actually doing is trying to avoid the use of logic...just like a sophist to be occlusive when logic gets in the way of your argument or anyone wants to peg you down with it.

...when to be able to make said statement you have to have a working thought proccess and functioning nervous system at work.

You have to have formed an opinion on what your speaking about when you make a statement conserning something like that about believing in something or not...you dont just up and blather the sounds that corolate to I dont believe such and such...without holding a belief (an idea) one way or the other on the topic in your head!

Thats what language is all about...the exchange of ideas.

In other words...a statement of dis-belief is in effect: a belief in and of itself; in that: its a belief in "not believing" what ever it was that it was made against. Again this is basic english word usage.


If you wont agree to at least abide by the rules of the english language than there really isnt much point in continueing you know.

Aethism is just as much an idea (belief) ~ whatever other applicable word in the thesarus you wish to use~ as any other idea or belief etc.

In that regard...your idea that there are no gods (athiesm) and my idea that there perhaps are (theism) are both ideas, they are both beliefs that we hold, they are both concepts that we hold in our minds etc!

You have zero direct credible evidence to support your idea.

The people who have the idea that your idea is in opposition too, in your opinion also have zero direct and or credible evidence.

So there is nothing to support eaither side in the matter that can be consider scientifically credible (something in and of itself that requires faith in ones peers findings unless everyone everywhere is going to be running around trying to disprove /prove eveything all the time for confirmation) other than how they each feel about the topic.

How much faith one side or other has (ie how much merit eaither side holds in it) in their idea is really a moot point as well.

So ...nieather idea has anything to back it up and both ideas are in direct opposition...which one is right?

Which one is right should only matter to the theist yes?

Since it is the theists that say there may be something after death or that our actions on this world may have consequences in the next?

And that idea only matters if the idea of paticular theists is the correct one (since the athiest idea concludes that one is just as dead after death and doesnt transend into anthing or get punnished/rewareded etc)...and even then only if certian sub-sections of some theists ideas prove to be correct in so far as whats waiting one after death. (cuase not every theist believes in the same afterlife if at all).

But outside of that consideration whats the point to blathering on and on about it?

Unless an athiest is on some kind of psudeo religious crusade or trying to make his or her idea somehow mean more? I mean are you trying to be just as zealous as the people whose ideas your trying to replace once were?Whats the point when it doesnt matter after your dead anyways as an athiest? Shouldnt the athiest if they are sooooo enlightened be content to just be silent and not care one way or the other since in their mind it must not really matter?

And since it doesnt matter to them...whats wrong with allowing people who have ideas that are equally credible by any test of science or logic of being the right ones to continue to have those ideas etc so long as they are not harming each other?

Whats wrong with being tolerant and respectful of each others ideas when it comes to this topic?