Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
In the case of a God, or Gods in the manner in which they are commonly held to exist by many different countless people before the advent of athiesm...that suposition is not possible in so far as a simple statement of dis-belief would be conserned, (at least not for anyone having knowledge of the possibility) for the idea it'self is in opposition too an allready known factor...however hypothetical it may be in your opinion.
Sorry, but atheism has existed since the first shaman invented gods. There have ALWAYS been non-believers, and there always WILL BE non-believers.

So what you're saying here, if I understand correctly, is that it is possible to NOT believe something that nobody has ever thought of, but when a lot of people already believe in something, you can't NOT believe in it? That doesn't sound right to me, but that's what I'm getting from this statement. Please elaborate?

I am glad your finally coming to the understanding that its not any given belief system itself thats at fualt so much as the evil acts of individuals who distorte such systems for their own gain over others or misinterpet their meaing to poorly consieved ends or to fuffil a less than inclusive agenda.
It's not only those who distort the systems, but those who INVENT the systems to begin with! We have seen this happen. Joseph Smith invented Mormonism. (He translated golden tablets which only he could see, right? Yeah, I'll believe that one!) L. Ron Hubbard invented Scientology, as a spoof of religions! Jim Jones, David Koresh, all manner of glib, fast-talking frauds who take advantage of vulnerable people. The apostles and Mohammed weren't any different, either. Just because they've lasted as long as they have doesn't make them any less of a cult.

Like Goreans or Headonists or Communists, or Capitalists or Enviromentalists or Scientists or Buddists or adherents of the "actual tenents" any of the majior faiths or philosophies that promote good virtures over bad ones for instance.
Goreans? Are you actually going to claim that as a faith, or the foundation of a philosophy? A rather badly written series of psycho-sexual science fiction? That's almost as bad as Scientology!

I would postulate then conserning "respect" that the atheists if they wish to earn any then must not fall into becoming exactly like that which they claim to oppose...for if as has been shown in the past with state sponsered atheism turns out to become a situation thats overall no different than state sponsered theism...we again have no reason to abandon the one for the other.
Why do you keep harping on the evils of "state-sponsored atheism?" No one is advocating that! All we want is for the government to adhere to the separation of church and state. Keep religion out of government, out of the public schools and off of public property. That is NOT an atheist state!