Sorry, but atheism has existed since the first shaman invented gods. There have ALWAYS been non-believers, and there always WILL BE non-believers.
You dont actually know that...you were not there...there is no written evidence to support any such claim, its pure speculation on your part.
So what you're saying here, if I understand correctly, is that it is possible to NOT believe something that nobody has ever thought of, but when a lot of people already believe in something, you can't NOT believe in it? That doesn't sound right to me, but that's what I'm getting from this statement. Please elaborate?
In the case of a pre-established idea, or belief or what ever you wish to call it, where you the thinker allready have a preconcieved knowledge thereof in common standing with the other individual...your stating a counter belief when you make a statement of dis-belief. The counter belief may be "I just dont believe that" or it may containt all sorts of stipulations like: "I dont believe that becuase of this and that and this other thing" etc; but, it is still a statement of "counter belief".
It's not only those who distort the systems, but those who INVENT the systems to begin with!
So you have a beef with anyone coming with an idea for any system of religion or philosophy of anykind?
We have seen this happen. Joseph Smith invented Mormonism. (He translated golden tablets which only he could see, right? Yeah, I'll believe that one!)
No one said you had too...last time I checked the Mormons were not running around doing evil things in the name of their faith eaither.
L. Ron Hubbard invented Scientology, as a spoof of religions! Jim Jones, David Koresh, all manner of glib, fast-talking frauds who take advantage of vulnerable people. The apostles and Mohammed weren't any different, either. Just because they've lasted as long as they have doesn't make them any less of a cult.
So once again, you have zero respect for the beliefs of others? Just becuase you disagee with the premise upon which they are founded?
Goreans? Are you actually going to claim that as a faith, or the foundation of a philosophy?
Why yes I do claim it as a philosophy of virtue ethics, if you havent noticed by now honey I am a real life practiconer of Gorean Philosophy. I dont call myself a kajira for roleplaying purposes or shits and giggles hon. I guess you forgot I was a Gorean? You did participate in the thread I linked bellow wher I pretty clearly stated my beliefs on Gor if I recall.
A rather badly written series of psycho-sexual science fiction? That's almost as bad as Scientology!
Oh and nice way to be directly insulting of my favored lifestyle philosophy btw. (Im also a practicing tantric and zen buddist as well as an adherent of several different other philosophies, not to mention my religious adhereance to the Bahai faith...if your wishing to insult those directly nows the time to get it out of your system.
If you really wanna discuss Gorean Philosophy however and the OLD school Master /Slave interactions and philosophies that influenced much of Dr Langes work that he chose to imbed into a fictional medium though I have a whole other thread for that in which you are more than welcome to participate. Here is a link for it..its in the very same section of the forums as this one too.
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/sh...n-Philosophies
Why do you keep harping on the evils of "state-sponsored atheism?" No one is advocating that! All we want is for the government to adhere to the separation of church and state. Keep religion out of government, out of the public schools and off of public property. That is NOT an atheist state!
Originally Posted by Thorne
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