A true sub will realize your "tricks" as actually abuse...Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
And will question how much of a "true" dom you are...
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A true sub will realize your "tricks" as actually abuse...Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
And will question how much of a "true" dom you are...
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhabbi
I refuse to say anymore! To think this is what gives the lifestyle a "bad rap." Shakes head, and walks away.
A sub gives up such a huge amount of power to his/her Dom, and abusing that by tricking him/her just seems like a violation of the whole thing...What am unsavoury thing to do.
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Originally Posted by jiggy
I think you're interpretation of the whole bdsm lifestyle is way of.
From what I've heard from both dom/mes and subs is that a sub will never be pushed beyond what he or she is comfortable with (discretion lies with the dom/me). Even if that boundry is pushed, it's done carefully and with purpose to reach a new level in satisfaction with sex or whatever else they are trying to achieve. A master's role is not to dish out any type punishment as he sees fit, even if a sub isn't protesting, it is your job to make sure she is alright.
I wonder if the subs you choose are new to the lifestyle and don't know any better about how a Dom should treat them. I am some what new to the lifestyle and I am damn glad that I found a Dom that was willing to be patient with me and earn my trust. He does not have to trick me to please him, communication is a very big part of our relationship and it sounds like that is something you are lacking if you have to trick your subs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
Well my subs come back for more so they know what is good for them :D
I treat my subs well........they are people like anyone else..............
What is flaming?
I am having a hard time believing jiggy in the first place. In the second, that isn't a trick, it's an abuse of trust. It's worse than that: it's a rejection of the tribute the sub is paying. It's degrading her.
And even if she's into degradation (I never met anyone who is) it's a mean spirited person who does the degrading.
TYWD
I agree with Peaches.
And Jiggy.. I've never read someone's words and disbelieved every word they say as much as i do you.
Right on, Wolfie. jiggy, I Do not believe your 'subs' come back for more; I do not believe you are a Dom, or even a dom. Yes, of course, some people are into degradation. Yes, of course it is possible that you find yourself girls - and I'm sure they're girls, not women - who think that being abused, confused and degraded is what subbing is all about. I just hope for them that they find someone else - after you've got 'bored' with them - who actually knows how to help them find happiness and fulfilment in the life.
I do wonder, now - is it that you move on pretty quickly because you get bored, or is it just that you can't keep a sub and you can't admit it to yourself?
jiggy, I would have given you the benefit of the doubt, but you fail to give anyone a reason to take you seriously.
If you are doing this for shock value, you are doing a great job!
If you are doing this because you believe that this is how a Dom should act, then you should seriously consider what a Dom is.
If you are doing this because this is your thing, and your so called subs are fully aware of your kinks, and expect to recieve a "so called punishment" and do not mind your style or actually enjoy it. Then more power to you.
But if you do not elaborate with better statements or answers than what you are doing now. No one will ever respect nor believe that you are genuine.
I do believe that jiggy is getting just what he wants from all this. ~sighs~
Despite jiggy's intent, it is great to see that our wonderful little community has many intelligent, thoughtful people who truly know what's good and right about Dominance and submission. And that is something to be happy about.
tessa :wave:
I have to agree with Tessa and her last post. I've returned to this board and I'm happy to see that it is still filled with mindful and thoughtful people who take this lifestyle serious and give it the respect it's due.
There will always be those that like to shock with their behavior. I for one don't believe a word that the OP has posted, and that is not flaming, it is a simple opinion based on common sense. If it is true then someday retribution will occur and god bless the little subbie that gives it.
What happened to "treat em mean to keep em keen"?Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
i wonder why we are all responding to this post.. lol.. i think it's fairly clear, he must be just doing it for the reaction... i highly doubt any of it is really happening... and if it is... imagine what type of women he is getting anyway.. they might be out "subbing" to many other "doms" as well... who could take him seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
Obviously, he does not have a good grasp on the English language either- jiggy, dear, in the context of your statement, "A true sub will except..," the correct spelling of that homophone is "accept."
((sorry, mods, is that flaming?? it's just like nails on a chalkboard to me, i had to write something...))
Good luck to you!
Yeah, all of what you said is probably true. But hey, gives us a chance to post something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eponine
:D
i just had a thought on this-
maybe jiggy is serious about this act... I think it would be okay if when you tell the sub you are displeased with the bj- it is not meant seriously, it's just like saying she's a "naughty girl" but not really meaning that..
But shocking the sub with an unexpected punishment when they really haven't displeased you is unhealthy- to make the sub feel she has disappointed you when in actuality she hasn't- that's abusive to me.
I won't engage in flaming. Feel free to believe if you want............if you don't no probs.
An "open minded" Dom and sub gernerally have a closer "bond" and are happy to engage in all activities if the end result is to please - Master ;)
Something to think about and look outside the "box"
Once again thanks for the nice PM's from BM's who have told me to ignore the flamers here.
There is only one thing I would like to comment about here.
If there is any truth whatsoever to what is being posted here, I believe one should consider what type of psychological effects this is having on the girls.
There hasn't been much mentioned other than the unfairness to them. I can't help but wonder what type of relationship they could possibly have with anyone in the future, when they have lost the ability to trust in another person on an intimate level.
Just my two cents.
~huggles for Wolfie for being so thoughtful...and cute, despite what he says~
jiggy, I see no flaming in this thread. I've seen people responding to your posts and the information therein because I'm pretty sure they all believe it is outside the realm of safe, sane and consensual. BDSM is many different things to as many different people, and that's ok. Different kinks for different pervs and all. But in this community, one thing stays constant for 99.99% of us here. And that is that ALL people are to be treated with dignity and respect at ALL times. Look outside that box and you're looking the wrong way.
If anyone on the Mod Squad sees any flaming, rest assured it will be dealt with. So glad to know you aren't going to engage in that particular evil. :)
tessa
So close of a bond in fact that you tend to "tire of subs quickly" and "rotate them around"?Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggy
Your messages could very well be genuine jiggy I'm open to that possibility. However if you're wondering why you aren't really taken 100% seriously it's because when confronted with obvious problems instead of working to help anyone understand your relationships you simply add another seemingly pseudo-dom soundbite that really don't make much sense to many of us who are actively involved in the lifestyle.
Maybe many of us are just misunderstanding you. A little clarification would go a long way to correcting that.
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Originally Posted by jiggy
Most subs have limits and you have to know the limits of that sub. Aren't we technically all openminded since we're into BDSM? By the way you've been talking your idea of open minded seems to be along the lines of TPE (Total Power Exchange) where the sub gives up her safe words and puts her trust completely into the Dom.
Personally, I think the way you play isn't SSC. I think that you're being dishonest with your submissives and possibly abusing them with your "trickery." I can't say for sure because I don't know your submissives, nor do I know you. We subs put a lot of trust into our Doms and if you're going through submissives like a fat kid goes through cake, well, something isn't right there.
And I agree with Tessa, we're not flaming. We're giving our honest opinions and treating you with respect.
Well, my former master often lied to me about getting that chastity belt of me. I felt used and slutty afterwards, but he did it in a (for a sub) very satisfying way. Those mind games work great for me. Instead of getting your reward you get another punishment.
Though I see a danger in overusing that and thus making the slave "resistent" to that kind of surprise/disappointment.
Tricking my morgan would be very dishonorable act by me. How could she respect me or honor me if I am that disreputable. I know her limits and push them to find out if they are real or just wants that frighten her. I expect obedience from her and willingly do her assigned task and even requests of mine. To lie or trick her is beneath me.
To lie and trick goes against the foundations of everything I have learned in my short time in the lifestyle. I honestly can not see how anyone could retain any sort of trust if treated otherwise.
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Originally Posted by jiggy
Jiggy,
You'd piss down my throat ONCE and then I would probably spit it at you. I think that is quite distasteful and offensive (unless your sub KNEW that you were going to do it) and I suspect she didn't as you mention "tricking" her. If it wasn't good enough...why did you cum?
It would completely destroy the trust I have with My Sir. Our relationship is based on communication and understanding of what is acceptible to US. If he ever had to TRICK me, I'd also question his trust in me.
Hispleasure
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Originally Posted by tessa
I must agree with tessa, this Jiggy must have come here to get the reactions he indeed has. I've considered what he said in his first post and it absolutely repulses me to think that My Sir would do such a detestful thing to me (the tricking..although the act of pissing down her throught is rather detestful too)
It is amazing to see what an intelligent and intellectual group we are here. Truely we respect and understand the gift of Domination and submission. Indded that is somthing to be happy about!
His pleasure
A sub should never be "tricked" into anything unless it is okay with them.
Tricking a sub will make the sub unable to trust the Dom and the relationship will not be able to build. Trust is most important.
i have been tricked and misled before and could not bring myself to trust that particular Dom who misled me, so the relationship could never build into something more.
I agree, even if it's an innocent trick, a sub will look for future deceit and possibly find somewhere there was no ill will in the first place. Also, with a sub that may have been hurt from a previous relationship might already be paranoid, and further deceit could ruin a relationship that might have blossomed into a glorious thing.
I know this in in the archive but I just had a rather interesting thought.
there is a dom who says that at the end of a blowjob he pees in the subs mouth instead of cumming.
If I am remembering my biology right that is impossible.
1) Human reproductive systems want to do only one thing...reproduce.
2) When sexual stimulation is being given the waste disposal system is shut down. Our biology does not want sperm contaminated with piss.
3) If he is getting a bj, his urinary equipment is temporarily shut down to allow the delivery of clean sperm.
So,
Changing right at the last second is not possible. In fact when oral stimulation gave him an erection, his urinary system is already on standby...
Therefore
His OP is a work of fiction.
I think ashton is wrong it is possible to piss with a hard on. The Op never said that he came. he said he tricked the sub into thinking he was going to to cum.
Read the original OP properly