Tricking your sub into getting something else.

[jiggy]

I have this great trick I have played over the years with different subs...............after having a sub suck my cock, get deep throated etc instead of rewarding them with my cum ....I piss down their throats instead and tell them it was cause i was displeased with their BJ skills

Keeps em coming back for more

[jeanne]

Oh, you're scary (yet that made me oddly hot...hmm, something to think about)

[jiggy]

Well thats why we have subs right to treat em mean to keep em keen

[jeanne]

And I expect you're good at it!

[tessa]

Well thats why we have subs right to treat em mean to keep em keen

That may be why you have a sub, but you need to watch the use of "we" in this instance. Might be quite offensive to some. Just a thought.

And if you are having to "trick" your sub in the getting of anything, you might need to consider what you might be doing wrong. Again, just a thought.

tessa

[Rhabbi]

That may be why you have a sub, but you need to watch the use of "we" in this instance. Might be quite offensive to some. Just a thought.

And if you are having to "trick" your sub in the getting of anything, you might need to consider what you might be doing wrong. Again, just a thought.

tessa

Going with tessa on this one, I never have to trick my subs.

[annie]

Votes with Tessa too. "Tricking" a sub will do nothing more then make a good sub learn to distrust you and every other dominate they meet. The "trick" is where each one has to consider if they are a dominate or an abuser... something to ponder at least.

[Dragon's muse]

Just have to chime in.

Dragon would never stoop to "tricking" me into anything. He knows that he only has to indicate what he wishes. "Tricking" seems a tad juvenile for our dynamic. He does not have to trick me into accepting his urine. It is an honor.

[ceegee{Benz}]

shudders at the thought.
One look from Benz says all. no trickery involved

[moptop]

Perhaps you ensure that you actually choose subs who, if 'tricked' into this, it is something that they would enjoy.

I think a decent 'cum' back would be simply to vomit it straight back on you again, personally.

Just a thought.

[Guest 91108]

Perhaps that's why you have had to use different subs as you have to trick them into what they would not do at your request or demand.

If i have to trick them , then they are not for me.

[~hellish one~]

i don't believe this thread to be productive and until i hear from an admin i am going to lock the thread.

~hellish

[Rabbit1]

well productive or not ----it is an open decussion and no one is flaming ---all things can not be productive ---

[cadence]

Perhaps you ensure that you actually choose subs who, if 'tricked' into this, it is something that they would enjoy.

I think a decent 'cum' back would be simply to vomit it straight back on you again, personally.

Just a thought.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Ocean_Soul]

I was thinking the same thing. Only with Chlamydia instead of piss.

[ceegee{Benz}]

*shudders*

[Phantome]

Hey, you know what would be a great way to trick an inconsiderate "dom?" How about after he tricks you and pisses down your throat, instead of rewarding him with a swallow, you bite his dick off and tell him that it's because you are disappointed in his "dom" skills. That'll keep em coming back for more.....
-Phan, disgusted

[tessa]

moptop, I laughed so hard it hurt. Thanks for that!

[diamondcontrol]

Although the OP used the word "trick," he doesn't say that watersports was a hard limit of the sub. If it is within her limits, it's just another mind fuck. If it was a violation of a limit, then I agree with you all that he deserves to have his dick bitten.

[Ocean_Soul]

Hey, you know what would be a great way to trick an inconsiderate "dom?" How about after he tricks you and pisses down your throat, instead of rewarding him with a swallow, you bite his dick off and tell him that it's because you are disappointed in his "dom" skills. That'll keep em coming back for more.....
-Phan, disgusted

LMAO that's golden.

[jeanne]

Gosh, I guess I assume this is a mutually acceptable part of their play - if it is, whatever happened to "your kink isn't my kink, but your kink is okay" or however it goes...

[tessa]

jeanne, I think that maybe most are hung up on the concept of "tricking a sub", not the issue of watersports.

"your kink isn't my kink, but your kink is okay" or however it goes...

That's just how it goes.

[jeanne]

Oh, I understand that - I guess I'm responding to the "tricking" part too - I take it from the post as "something we do for fun once in a while" rather than "I'm doing something she hates and has never agreed to". God knows I could be wrong - won't be the first time and won't be the last! Once again, I learn assuming really is just a shortcut, isn't it?

[Phantome]

No his_j, I wasn't snarking about the watersports- like you said, a kink is a kink, and everyone's is different. It's the tricking a sub into doing something that rubs me the wrong way. Also, our friend jiggy seems to have a habit of logging on once in a blue moon and leaving inflammatory comments- see the smelly pussies or beastiality threads for examples. Sure, I'm taking the bait, but his past comments lead me to believe that this wouldnt be a SSC or RACK activity, should it be one he actually participates in.......
-Phan

[jeanne]

Ah, I see...that's too bad, I guess it's a drawback to the online community, isn't it? (as opposed to real life) Can't really "freeze" people out just for behaving badly. It certainly explains the really quick escalation of the comments today, which surprised me since I've not seen that much here previously.

[jiggy]

I don't see what i am doing as wrong and certainly don't flame people here for there own thoughts and beliefs. I suppose tricking may be the wrong word...........maybe a semi punishment for a sub not performing to my requirements. Pissing down their throats usually catches them off guard and naturally so they don't spill a drop of piss I force their mouth and throat to take in as much piss as posible without choking them to death of course.

I have to admit i do tire of subs quickly so I tend to rotate them around.

Once again just thought i would give you all some enlightening ideas
If you don't like it so be it!

If you think thats bad...............would you like to hear something else I do when they are all tied up and have disappointed me even more?!

[nk_lion]

When I first read your post I was a bit surprised at this 'punishment'. Some subs may like it, but from most people that I've met here aren't to fond of urophagia. So I guess surprising her with that might be pretty offensive in terms of your treatment of your subs.

Plus, you say it's a form of punishment. From the dom/mes that I've met here, they don't dish out punishments spontaneously. And since it takes a great deal of trust for anyone to submit, it would be almost like an immense failiure for sub to be treated without even notification that their master isn't happy or satisfied.

Again, I have never been a dom or sub to anyone, and all I know about treatment is what I've read of other people's posts, so I don't claim to be entirely correct, these are merely educated assumptions.

[tessa]

If you think thats bad...............would you like to hear something else I do when they are all tied up and have disappointed me even more?!

No, jiggy, we probably wouldn't. I am sure it would just cause more negativity. Let's just leave it at you do your thing your way and some of us disagree with your methods. No flaming involved at all...just a major difference of opinion.

tessa

[cream _(DNW)]

jiggy I am with tessa on that one.

[Eponine]

Well it's clear, jiggy, that you are simply trying to get the reactions you've gotten.

I haven't read many of your other posts, but you may or may not engage in anything more than writing your thoughts here on this forum.

But should you actually be seeking a submissive or a slave, I hope that she would be smart enough to see through you. Your "tiring of subs quickly" reflects, to me, classic fear of commitment. I think you are short-changing yourself in the long run, and possibly damaging some women along the way.

And back on the original question's content- I don't think your "trickery" of surprising the sub with urine instead of semen is a bad thing- I would not even term it as a "trick". However, your lying about their displeasing you is the bad part. In fact, that shows a great lack of true mastery ability.

I'm sure every true sub, slave, Dom/me, Master, Mistress knows how powerful the thought of displeasing the one you serve is. To use that deceitfully is terribly immature, unfair, irresponsible, unproductive, and destructive. Just the opposite of what a good D/s relationship should be.

So, Jiggy, whatever it is you do, whether in reality or simply in your mind, I believe you need a new calling.