Welcome to the BDSM Library.
  • Login:
beymenslotgir.com kalebet34.net escort bodrum bodrum escort
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 76

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    824
    Post Thanks / Like

    So many readers so few reviews

    How is it you can have 5,000 people read a story in a month and get maybe one or two to review it? Is the review process really that hard or is it something else. I mean it really is encouraging when someone takes the time to let you know what they felt about your story.
    Last edited by Mad Lews; 02-19-2005 at 06:18 AM.
    English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages into dark alleys, raps them over the head with a cudgel, then goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    381
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Lews
    How is it you can have 5,000 people read a story in a month and get maybe one or two to review it? Is the review proscess really that hard or is it something else. I mean it really is incouraging when someone takes the time to let you know what they felt about your story.
    You are right to complain but I have to admit I am guilty as hell. I have read several stories where I have thought I must write a review and haven't. I've actually finished a story determined to write a review and haven't. I think I will start making a habit of writing a review even if I am critical of the story. I think constructive criticism is worthwhile even if one struggles to find something positive in a person's work.

    You have touched my conscience and I will start writing reviews. A review is so so encouraging. It really does make all the effort worthwhile.

    Oh and thanks for the review!

  3. #3
    Down under & loving it
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Australia.
    Posts
    1,799
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Lews
    How is it you can have 5,000 people read a story in a month and get maybe one or two to review it? Is the review proscess really that hard or is it something else. I mean it really is incouraging when someone takes the time to let you know what they felt about your story.


    Yes, I agree, however, I didn't have to look further than the past two month's top reviewers to find an answer for you - your name isn't on either list.

    It's disappointing for sure, particularly for those authors who have received no rating/feedback at all for their efforts. Your stories, I see, all have a least a couple of reviews - good high ratings too - well done!

    Many readers are just that - readers not writers. I feel that quite possibly many just simply don't feel comfortable, or qualified, to comment. I agree it's unwarranted but I'm sure I'm right.
    Last edited by Alex Bragi; 02-18-2005 at 08:12 PM.
    You can suck 'em, and suck 'em, and suck 'em, and they never get any smaller. ~ Willy Wonka

    Alex Whispers

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    824
    Post Thanks / Like

    I didn't want to whine

    I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound like I'm complaining. I really am wondering if it's something to do with the process. I've actually gotten e-mails from people who tried to leave a review and for one reason or another couldn't. Is it the drop down menu selection? I really don't know. And yes I'm a guilty party too. I hereby swear to do at least three a week FNO
    English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages into dark alleys, raps them over the head with a cudgel, then goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.

  5. #5
    Down under & loving it
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Australia.
    Posts
    1,799
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Lews
    I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound like I'm complaining. I really am wondering if it's something to do with the process. I've actually gotten e-mails from people who tried to leave a review and for one reason or another couldn't. Is it the drop down menu selection? I really don't know. And yes I'm a guilty party too. I hereby swear to do at least three a week FNO
    All men whinge and complain, Mad Lews, so why should you be any different.
    You can suck 'em, and suck 'em, and suck 'em, and they never get any smaller. ~ Willy Wonka

    Alex Whispers

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Sunny Southern California
    Posts
    1,325
    Post Thanks / Like
    A challenge to all would be / not so frequent reviewers

    Review one story a week. That's 4 a month and with that you could make the top ten reviewers list. One a week - you can do it!

    (You'll find it becomes a habt whenever you finish a story and you'll do more if your not thinking about it.)

    Your reward - bragging rights, the right to complain that others aren't reviewing, satisfaction knowing that you helped others...whatever motivates you.

    Review writing made easy:

    Rate the story based on the description given in the numbers.
    Those descriptions are very helpful.

    One to three sentences will help the author and future readers. So without giving away the plot or story twists (spoilers) fill in some of the sample sentences. Strive for quality of comments instead of quantity.

    The plot was _____ (believable, unrealistic, wonderful, well conceived ....)
    The visual descriptions were _____
    The characters were ___
    I liked this story because ____
    I thought this story could use a bit of work on ____ (dialog, grammar, ...)
    My favorite character(s) was/were _____ because ____
    Needed a warning - please add code ____

    Or go with your gut - and tell everyone what you felt/thought:
    Samples below - I'm sure you can create your own.

    Great writing style kept me wanting more long after I was done.
    The story had me reaching for my vibe.
    This story was so hot I had to grab my partner.
    A perfect story for reading to your partner while they are tied and waiting
    in anticipation.

    There's nothing to it

    Just be polite, have fun and do your best.

    Me? I'm at one with my duality. I switch, therefore I am.
    Vampire erotica stories are posted here http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/a...?authorid=1290
    Visit http://www.vampirespet.com/ActivityChecklist.html for a Submissive / Dominant / Switch Activity Checklist.


  7. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    824
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby
    A challenge to all would be / not so frequent reviewers

    Just be polite, have fun and do your best.
    Thanks Ruby
    Great suggestions and advice, I'll get right on it. (also a nifty way to procrastinate when the writing muse is on strike)
    .
    English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages into dark alleys, raps them over the head with a cudgel, then goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.

  8. #8
    Purple Collar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    USA Virginia
    Posts
    653
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby
    A challenge to all would be / not so frequent reviewers

    Review one story a week. That's 4 a month and with that you could make the top ten reviewers list. One a week - you can do it!

    (You'll find it becomes a habt whenever you finish a story and you'll do more if your not thinking about it.)

    Your reward - bragging rights, the right to complain that others aren't reviewing, satisfaction knowing that you helped others...whatever motivates you.
    Ruby,
    This is a wonderful challenge. Authors should receive feedback on their work. So I have accepted the challenge. I am being pretty pity about what I read. I still avoid the hardcore extreme stuff unless I am requested to read it by the author. Stories I have read and reviewed.

    Blood and Betrayal: Taking an Amazon by Ruby Bloodstone
    http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/s...p?storyid=3234

    A Pirate's Life for Me by Domination King
    http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/s...p?storyid=2951

    Breakfast with the Doctor by Dr. Wellhung
    http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/s...p?storyid=3248

    JoAnna Smith - Seaman Apprentice by Sailor 861
    http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/s...p?storyid=3250

    P.S.
    I found this site when an Internet friend sent me a link to a story on the site. I must admit that the story was extremely hard-core for someone unfamiliar with this life style. I found it upsetting. I couldn't even finish it. While the story excited my friend I found it only angered me. I never read another story but did join the forum.

    I can’t remember the name of the story but it involved a girl who was sent a plane ticket so she could spend 2 weeks with a couple. She is tricked by the sadistic couple and their plan was to turn her into a mindless slave by the end of the 2 weeks with the help of an ex con that they employed. If anyone remembers this story I would love to finish reading it now that I am more comfortable with myself. The character’s name might be Mary.
    Curiosity killed the cat, satisfaction brought her back.

  9. #9
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    438
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby
    A challenge to all would be / not so frequent reviewers
    Ruby, I think you did a great job getting the little challenge together here. I included your text in the faq section of this site and I hope you won't mind that:
    http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/faq.html#8

    If anyone have any suggestion about this, feel free to let me know.

    Jinn

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    824
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Bragi
    All men whinge and complain, Mad Lews, so why should you be any different.
    I may be few things but diffrent is one of them. Still I've never learned to whinge,If you'll describe it in graphic detail I'll try my best, or not.
    English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages into dark alleys, raps them over the head with a cudgel, then goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.

  11. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    5
    Post Thanks / Like

    Reviews

    I agree that it would be nice for authors to have more reviews of their works. That way, they could improve and be encouraged to write more. I'd review more myself except that it takes a certain amount of time to give a good review and I'm a bit lazy in that regard.

    Of course, it also doesn't encourage me when my review is attacked...

    banderson

  12. #12
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    438
    Post Thanks / Like
    I had put a link on the review page. It will be too long to fit the full text there. I hope people will read it before reviewing. Sometime readers do not realize how their reviews will affect the authors and the authors may also keep other reviewers away by giving some negative remarks. So I believe this is a great idea to let both reviewers and authors understand the need of others. If you think I can improve it in any way, feel free to let me know.

    Jinn

  13. #13
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    24
    Post Thanks / Like

    Question Message from emmacd

    Hi Jinn I know how you feel. I have out up messages on what I should write about. They are ignored and I would be happy if they wrote negative about what I wished towrite. This is quite different from other groups that I have been in. Just hang in and kep on writing. Emmacd :help:
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinn
    I had put a link on the review page. It will be too long to fit the full text there. I hope people will read it before reviewing. Sometime readers do not realize how their reviews will affect the authors and the authors may also keep other reviewers away by giving some negative remarks. So I believe this is a great idea to let both reviewers and authors understand the need of others. If you think I can improve it in any way, feel free to let me know.

    Jinn

  14. #14
    Covered in Orangeblossoms
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    721
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    26

    Don't's

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinn
    I had put a link on the review page. It will be too long to fit the full text there. I hope people will read it before reviewing. Sometime readers do not realize how their reviews will affect the authors and the authors may also keep other reviewers away by giving some negative remarks. So I believe this is a great idea to let both reviewers and authors understand the need of others. If you think I can improve it in any way, feel free to let me know.

    Jinn
    Maybe you should put a disclaimer - Don't give a bad review because the fetish or kink was not to your taste! - I have a seen a lot of bad reviews because it didn't fit the reviewers genre. Pardon - I said bad reviews. I meant stupid.

  15. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like

    Great suggestions.... and something else.....

    Two other trends I have found in reading other's reviews that should be, IMO, Big Don'ts:

    1) Harshly judging a first chapter because it doesn't have enough of the "good stuff" (whatever you're into) - As a writer, I always try to start a story with a bang. I know that's important. But, let's try to cut the newer writers a break in this department. Effectively achieving balance between plot and character development is difficult to master. I don't know if slamming newbies with 1 and 2 star reviews is the way to get the message across. I am surprised many victims of this haven't just given up (and some have, unfortunately... look at all the one chapter stories out there). Lastly, if you feel your preliminary judgement is warrented, at least do the author the courtesy of re-reviewing the story once more content is added.

    2) Laying down arbitrary rules like "a story should be 'x' pages long." Says who? Hey, the size is posted on every story link here. If it's beyond your attention span or interest level, then don't read it. Sorry for flaring, I was just thinking of a certain reviewer (who shall remain nameless).

  16. #16
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    824
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by General_Dom
    Two other trends I have found in reading other's reviews that should be, IMO, Big Don'ts:

    1) Harshly judging a first chapter because it doesn't have enough of the "good stuff" (whatever you're into) - As a writer, I always try to start a story with a bang. I know that's important. But, let's try to cut the newer writers a break in this department. Effectively achieving balance between plot and character development is difficult to master. I don't know if slamming newbies with 1 and 2 star reviews is the way to get the message across. I am surprised many victims of this haven't just given up (and some have, unfortunately... look at all the one chapter stories out there). Lastly, if you feel your preliminary judgement is warrented, at least do the author the courtesy of re-reviewing the story once more content is added.

    2) Laying down arbitrary rules like "a story should be 'x' pages long." Says who? Hey, the size is posted on every story link here. If it's beyond your attention span or interest level, then don't read it. Sorry for flaring, I was just thinking of a certain reviewer (who shall remain nameless).
    Write on General_Dom!
    Don't mind me I'm still smarting from my first review under 7, a 2 no less. Now don't get me wrong the story might suck but the reason given was she didn't find anything erotic about it. So I check out the other reviews she's done. They vary between 2 and 5 for every story except 1 author who gets straight tens. Comments are all pretty much the same " It didn't turn me on". I mean you can tell people the rating scale isn't an arouse-o-meter but you can't make them listen. The same reviewer mentioned that the story should grip her from page one and be no more than 25-30 pages. I thought of asking for a word count because I don't know the font size she uses and I'd hate to leave her dangeling with a 35 page story, but I figured I'd said enough.
    Vent closed! Hatches secured, I'll plunge on now.
    Mad Lews
    English does not borrow from other languages. English follows other languages into dark alleys, raps them over the head with a cudgel, then goes through their pockets for loose vocabulary and spare grammar.

  17. #17
    Down under & loving it
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Australia.
    Posts
    1,799
    Post Thanks / Like
    Do you review?
    You can suck 'em, and suck 'em, and suck 'em, and they never get any smaller. ~ Willy Wonka

    Alex Whispers

  18. #18
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    2
    Post Thanks / Like
    There is a place i know of that does reviews.... They seem to be sticking with pretty much one source for their stories, but I did see one or two from here... Maybe if they heard from you, they would start doing more stories from here. Anyway, the link is: http://indianpilot.tripod.com

    Hope it is of some help.

    buttins

  19. #19
    Forum God
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Washington DC area
    Posts
    23,930
    Post Thanks / Like
    As someone who has submitted stories, I can say that it is encouraging to know someone thought enough of my story to write a review. If it's a positive review of course I'm delighted, but even if it's negative (and I've received a few), it spurs me on to do better.

  20. #20
    Head Greeter
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    2,483
    Post Thanks / Like

    Smile

    Sandcastler, I can understand how not getting a reply back from authors when you email them would be disappointing, but do try reviewing a story. It is a much more public way to praise the author of the story you like or offer some hints on how to improve a story. I for one really look forward to seeing what my reviewers say. It is ok to try to email the author too but as you have discovered they may not always respond. I hope you decide to review one of my stories and let me know what you like (or dislike) about it.

    I have to agree with DungeonMaster, it does spur you on to write more when someone takes the time to review. I don't write just for reviews, I write first and formost for my own enjoyment, but I do get a buzz each time a new story starts to get reviewed.
    Last edited by Aussiegirl1; 04-23-2006 at 02:30 PM.

  21. #21
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    13
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mmm - I used to not respond that much, because I'm always a bit embarrassed when people compliment me. However, I've decided to start responding to every email I get now on my stories - I even went back over some emails I got last year and gave belated and apologetic thanks. I regret not doing it sooner - people want feedback on their feedback too, frankly.

  22. #22
    New to the Lifestyle
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Southwest Florida
    Posts
    4,640
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    4
    I know I like to read the stories, but it takes time for me to come up with a suitable review. I will put in a couple of reviews soon.

  23. #23
    Electrified Non-Moderator
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,073
    Post Thanks / Like
    I know I like to read the stories, but it takes time for me to come up with a suitable review. I will put in a couple of reviews soon.
    Totally understandable, but don't let it stop you either. You can add to, or edit your reviews later, and that's completely fine, but just a quick rating and a brief "good, will write more later" is really appreciated. Right now my main story has 14,000 reads and an underwhelming 6 reviews -- which led to my ceasing writing for a couple months due to lack of motivation. So while you intend to write something, it's hard for the author to get motivated by that.

  24. #24
    Head Greeter
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    2,483
    Post Thanks / Like
    I know I was guilty of not reviewing stories before I began to write my own. As an author, I do take note of any reviews I get and try now to at least review the stories I get time to read.

    One of the ironic things I find though is that the more stories I write and the more I get involved in the forum, the less time I have to read and review! I guess it is a case of just trying to find a balance and I will always try to do that, as writers deserve the feedback.
    Learning more each day!

    So very happy to be loved by Warbaby. ~

  25. #25
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    21
    Post Thanks / Like

    The story of Jane

    Is there a missing chapter 21?

  26. #26
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    3,454
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by RhondaLee View Post
    Is there a missing chapter 21?
    yep the author for some reason submitted chapter 22 before he did 21 so I can only publish what the author sends me ---it has been corrected now

  27. #27
    Ninja
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    coming to a theatre near you
    Posts
    2,472
    Post Thanks / Like
    Its good to post a review for the authors. There is nothing more depressing than sending a story off to be read and recieve little to no feedback. Authors need praise, constructive critisism anything, just to let them know someone read what they had to say.

  28. #28
    Painslut
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    France
    Posts
    7
    Post Thanks / Like
    One reason why I send very few reviews despite parsing through almost all BDSMlibrary's production is the limited format. Also you're not sure the review will be read at all.

    Specific hints: I think the scale for assessing is wrong in putting 'could be printed in a mainstream magazine (or something to that effect) as the top notch mark. To me that's no distinction! Magazine stories are soo boring and vanilla anyway! I like stories to be wicked to the extreme. The HAVE to be readable, but my reading committee is not a boffins' club - it's my clit and finger.

    AND the review form should include a question whether the reviewer would welcome further exchange w/ the writer. The writer than chooses whether to pursue or not. Less intrusive than email, and (s)he still gets the public praise (s)he wants!

    (I abstain from negative reviews. Sorry. I know some would be needed.)

  29. #29
    Electrified Non-Moderator
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    1,073
    Post Thanks / Like
    Reviews are very much read -- if not by the author, then by others looking over stories. And honestly, I don't think there are many people who would put the effort into writing a story to publish for free and not care about response. If they didn't, they wouldn't put it up. Also, an email is sent to authors every time there's a review...so it is DEFINITELY noticed.

    I hear the issue with the top ranking...but I think the idea is, is it ready for publication ie, is it polished, perfect, nothing at all could be improved. At least, that's how I treat it, but then I give out very, very few 10s.

    As for further exchange, the author can always respond to comments and it's up to the reviewer if they ever want to come back and say anything more.

  30. #30
    Down under & loving it
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Australia.
    Posts
    1,799
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricBadger View Post
    Reviews are very much read -- if not by the author, then by others looking over stories. And honestly, I don't think there are many people who would put the effort into writing a story to publish for free and not care about response. If they didn't, they wouldn't put it up. Also, an email is sent to authors every time there's a review...so it is DEFINITELY noticed.

    I hear the issue with the top ranking...but I think the idea is, is it ready for publication ie, is it polished, perfect, nothing at all could be improved. At least, that's how I treat it, but then I give out very, very few 10s.

    As for further exchange, the author can always respond to comments and it's up to the reviewer if they ever want to come back and say anything more.
    Absolutey, but how many authors actually acknowledge feedback? I got a 'thank you' email this morning from an author who I've noticed always responds to feedback. Maybe that's why that author gets more feedback to begin with?

    Also, I'm often amazed at authors who will actually request feedback, at the end of their story, but then criticise the critique. Maybe this puts some people off?
    You can suck 'em, and suck 'em, and suck 'em, and they never get any smaller. ~ Willy Wonka

    Alex Whispers

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Back to top