teen bdsm??

[jaeangel]

You don't even really need to be a teen nowadays!
The other night I was watching the news and there was a thing on there where a nine year old boy raped a four year old girl. The mother actually walked in on the boy pulling his erection out of his sobbing little sister!
I think anyone who would look at that and not find that morally and ethically repugnant should have their head examined.
That said...
I first discovered my submissive side when I was in high school. I was fouteen and Chris was eighteen, and we'd fool around in the library after school when we were working on the school newspaper. That was as far as I wanted to get; he'd use backpack straps to tie my hands while I sat on a chair and he'd duck under the table and play with my cunt. One afternoon he went a little too far. He pulled me out of my chair and turned me around, pulling my panties down, and started to enter me. I told him no, told him to stop, and he didn't. He said i liked being tied up and made to do dirty stuff (it was a parochial school, after all, and Catholics take a very dim view of fornication)and so I must want this too. He proceeded to divest me of my virginity, and it was PAINFUL! I did everything I could to get him to stop, but he didn't.
The point I'm trying to get at here, though, is that whether we like to think about it or not, teenagers (and, judging from the news, little kids too) engage in sex. To deny that would be to deny a basic fact of nature. Back in the caveman days, as soon as a girl had her first period she was married off to some cro-magnon who took her whenever he wanted to, and by the time she was eighteen, she'd have a toddler on each leg and a baby on her hip. (Imagine that. I had my first period when I was seven. By the time I was eighteen I'd have had at least five or six babies!)
Anyway, back on topic. Teens have sex. Like rabbits, if my senior class were any sign. They explore their bodies even as they start exploring the world (by getting jobs) and explore the limits of their parents' tempers (anyone with teens, or who has kids who were once teens, will understand.) While our current societical expectations are that they will wait until they are 'legal', there are very few teens who actually do wait. Therefore, i really don't think that the government banning teen/older person literature, photos, and other media is really going to make any difference whatsoever. And i think maybe they realize that. It's kind of like sticking your finger in a little hole in the dyke while watching water pour out of a big gap further down the wall! But they still try to stop it because some little piece of their minds is insisting that mother nature's implanted urge to explore the body is wrong.

[MrJerseyGuy]

I guess it's only natural that your opinions change as you get older. I personally wouldn't want to read anything that revolved around real young kids. I personally find it repulsive. I think the "legal" limit of 18 years old, at least in the US, is a little unrealistic and the product of laws developed by the bible thumping framers of the constitution back in the 1700s. The fact is, I don't know if I know anyone who has ever waited until 18 to become sexually active...and I grew up in a time that was much less liberal than the present.

From a "personal experience" perspective, however...I had a rep for dating young girls (20 to 28) well into my forties. I'm forty-five now. What an education I got when I finally went out with a girl with a little "experience". The "over thirty" chicks really know how to do it! They are just so much wiser, more secure, and less inhibited. I don't think I'd ever go back!

[Neopadinski]

I think the legal limit for teen sex has become a bit...fuzzy. On paper, it's 18 years of age. But in reality, kids are having sex for the hell of it. It's no longer a symbolic event in one's life, it's America's pastime. I've heard of middle school kids (13 or 14) already pregnant. Gee, another useless high school dropout on welfare. There aren't enough of those around. And don't try to tell me that this could have been avoided. With these sex ed programs in school, kids ARE aware of the consequences of their actions. And from what jaeangel said, kids are aware of sex LONG before the teenage years.

God doesn't have to make another flood to turn this place into a craphole. He'll just sit around and watch this friggin' younger generation do it.

[vistana]

I think the legal limit for teen sex has become a bit...fuzzy. On paper, it's 18 years of age. But in reality, kids are having sex for the hell of it. It's no longer a symbolic event in one's life, it's America's pastime. I've heard of middle school kids (13 or 14) already pregnant. Gee, another useless high school dropout on welfare. There aren't enough of those around. And don't try to tell me that this could have been avoided. With these sex ed programs in school, kids ARE aware of the consequences of their actions. And from what jaeangel said, kids are aware of sex LONG before the teenage years.

God doesn't have to make another flood to turn this place into a craphole. He'll just sit around and watch this friggin' younger generation do it.

Atleast in Canada, I'm fairly certain that the legal age is 14, and 18 for anal sex.

[allalone46]

Here in the U.S. 18 is legal, below that is jail bate. And that dosn't care if male or female, or if its both that are under age, the parents can be arrested. Dosn't happen that much but can happen.

[Master514]

Here in the U.S. 18 is legal, below that is jail bate. And that dosn't care if male or female, or if its both that are under age, the parents can be arrested. Dosn't happen that much but can happen.

Quite wrong.
See here http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

[allalone46]

Quite wrong.
See here http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

Under age is still under age. It isn't up to thouse that are under age to deside this. In the system it is made by the grown ups. And both the c*******n can be charged with staturtory rape.

[whippedcream]

I think the legal limit for teen sex has become a bit...fuzzy. On paper, it's 18 years of age. But in reality, kids are having sex for the hell of it. It's no longer a symbolic event in one's life, it's America's pastime. I've heard of middle school kids (13 or 14) already pregnant. Gee, another useless high school dropout on welfare. There aren't enough of those around. And don't try to tell me that this could have been avoided. With these sex ed programs in school, kids ARE aware of the consequences of their actions. And from what jaeangel said, kids are aware of sex LONG before the teenage years.

God doesn't have to make another flood to turn this place into a craphole. He'll just sit around and watch this friggin' younger generation do it.

Yikes, Neo, that's a little harsh. I was into anal sex at 16, but I don't see my actions as helping turn the world into a craphole. I think you're being a little hard on the kids, and a little easy on the sex ed programs in public schools. Often they teach abstinence-only but are not permitted to use religious/moral grounds, so the best they can come up with is showing slide shows of diseased penises and warning, "This will happen to YOU if you don't keep it in your pants!" Kids that young can't get the pill alone and aren't taught how to put on a condom, so I don't think it's fair to assign them all the blame when mistakes happen. I do think that kids are sexually active earlier than they used to be, but I don't necessarily agree that it's a bad thing.

[jaeangel]

There's actually a concurrent discussion going on in the 'General Talk' thread about the legal age of consent:
http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2255
Someone found and posted a link to a 'legal age of consent' chart for countries all over the world. It was really interesting; in the country where I was born (South Korea) I could have had sex at the age of 13!

[Curtis]

In both the school I attended in the days of my youth and the district I reside in now, there is no sex education.

[j]

This thread was under a general 'Story ideas' heading, but it turns out to be an ethics forum about actual BDSM for underage persons. Which any sane person would disapprove of, of course.

While such a forum may well be justified and interesting, I generally lament the fact that BDSM Library's forums are more and more community- and lifestyle-oriented, and leave very little room to discussion/avancement of erotic literature in the BDSM genre.

Wonder if anybody else feels the same way.

[Master514]

I think the legal limit for teen sex has become a bit...fuzzy. On paper, it's 18 years of age. But in reality, kids are having sex for the hell of it. It's no longer a symbolic event in one's life, it's America's pastime. I've heard of middle school kids (13 or 14) already pregnant.

You're totally mixing up things. There is no legal age between teens. Two teens can fuck at 12 and there's absolutely nothing the authorities are empowered to do.

The problem arizes only with a teen+adult and it's often less than 18 according to the law. In a whole lot of US states and other countries it's 16. South Carolina is 14, just like Canada. In the US Military it's 16.

It also varies with the kind of relation b/w the teen and the adult. For instance, a different law regime (usually 18 yrs old) governs a situation of authority (ex.: sports coach / teen or teacher/student).

["Roof"]

I think the legal limit for teen sex has become a bit...fuzzy. On paper, it's 18 years of age. But in reality, kids are having sex for the hell of it. It's no longer a symbolic event in one's life, it's America's pastime. I've heard of middle school kids (13 or 14) already pregnant. Gee, another useless high school dropout on welfare. There aren't enough of those around. And don't try to tell me that this could have been avoided. With these sex ed programs in school, kids ARE aware of the consequences of their actions. And from what jaeangel said, kids are aware of sex LONG before the teenage years.

God doesn't have to make another flood to turn this place into a craphole. He'll just sit around and watch this friggin' younger generation do it.

Neo
Have you written any (maledom n/c) stories?

[Arebie]

[QUOTE=MrJerseyGuy]. The fact is, I don't know if I know anyone who has ever waited until 18 to become sexually active...QUOTE]

I'm 19 and have not yet engaged in sexual activity. I have, however, been visiting adult content websites, such as this, from a very young age- probably 13 or 14. I grew up with my brothers friends, 10 years my senior, teaching me the "ways of men". I was a quick learner and enjoyed teasing them, learning how to play the game... though our interactions were, in retrospect, inappropriate, their intentions were good and they would never touch me until I turned 18. This fueled my desire for older men, and as they would not go down the "jailbait" road, I was left at a loss for appealing suitors until after I had graduated- I had kissed a few boys in high school, but I found them to be silly, awkward, and immature. However, once my goals were obtainable, I figured that I had waited this long, and may as well give my virginity to someone who I desired to give it to, not just to someone who desired to take it from me, so here I am.

Hmm... I'm not really sure how that tangent I got off on related to the thread, apart from the no-sex as a teen, but that's my story...

[Curtis]

The fact is, I don't know if I know anyone who has ever waited until 18 to become sexually active

Well, you don't know me, but I'm at 44 years and holding.

[vistana]

Back in the caveman days, as soon as a girl had her first period she was married off to some cro-magnon who took her whenever he wanted to, and by the time she was eighteen, she'd have a toddler on each leg and a baby on her hip

Did the cro-magnon actually have marriages? Didn't think they were that formal about dragging the women off to their caves.

Seriously though, I agree with what people have said. Teens have sex. And access adult websites whenever they can, and it really isn't hard. I turned 18 about 8 months ago, but I've been visiting 'adult content' websites, mostly story sites, for much longer than that.
Teenagers are very sexual, and I don't see the harm in writing about that.

[Kaori-san]

To be honest though, concidering the fact that the average 15 year old girl is used to giving a blowjob to a boy if asked and the amount of underage sex and such, I dont really think there is anything wrong with a teen sex story. People can no longer act that a teenager will not have had sex, when free comdoms are given out to them to prevent teen pregnancies.

Go ahead and write a story, as the average teen could may have already done what you put in. Thats what I think at least...

[prey4me]

varies from country to country and sub-jurisdiction (state, province, department, etc.) to various other sub-jurisdictions.

In my Northeastern US state, a minor (under 18) CAN be charged with "statutory rape:" the charge would be, "delinquent, to wit, 'rape of a child.'"

Now that's the law. What happens in fact may be another matter. As things get looser, look for more tolerance, and then, after a while, the law-makers (in various jurisdictions) may say, "well, they're doing it anyway....so let them do it legally.

If this is your thing, there's a large paysite, Mr.Doubles which apparently puts up lots of under-age stories. I've never subscribed, but judging by the story exceprts and what free material they have, you'll find plenty of incest, under-age, non-consensual, extreme, and pedophiliac stories.