I think there is a whole lot of misconception going on in this thread. If I had not outed myself as having a gorean background I do not think anyone would have ever known I was one of those people who have based some of their lifestyle on parts of fantasy books. However to continue with that chain of thought would require moving this into the religion thread.

The gorean world online, which is how most people discover it, is full of wannabes, posers, and jerks just like is found in the online BDSM communities. It is not correct to assume that a gorean slave is owned for life with no chance to be free of a master she does not wish to serve. I know of no master in the gorean style that would hold any slave against her wishes to be set free from her service to him. I can not say the same for the real life BDSM world.

The basic premise of a gorean slave is that she is to be pleasing, and I can tell you that a unhappy slave is not very pleasing and she would be "released" from her collar as soon as the master realized this was not in his power to change.

Of course since goreans are manly men they will cover this failure by selling her off to another master who she thinks will offer her a better chance at being pleasing. Sorry, I was poking fun at the online chat rooms with that part.

I am not sure what the comments on sadistic goreans comes from unless as I said above it was from witnessing some wannabe etc. in a chat room somewhere, goreans are not sadists at all. That does not mean a girl will not be punished if she needs it, however a gorean slave can be punished in many ways and I find the whip to be the least used method for this task.

I take no pleasure from punishing a girl even though I admit to having a chuckle sometimes in the way they have handled the assigned punishment. Punishment is only given to aid a girls understanding just like a parent must disipline a child when they misbehave or do not follow the rules.

The difference is that the slave knew and agreed to the rules up front before she chose to beg for her collar.

Oh me, I was just going to jump in to say a few words and ended up writing another chapter in this book.