Quote Originally Posted by Wolfscout View Post
I think we don't judge people by religion. at least i don't...
and i don't think organised religions are very good at telling us how to judge others.
it's a double standard in the bible that tells us to not judge but what is right and wrong for us to do causes us to judge others by that right and wrong.
Is all part of the problem i have with the text to start with. it's filled with inconsistencies.
Your post is where I was going with this. Thanks Wolf.

I came across another blog post. This one by a atheist. I thought the points the person made were quite interesting.

Personally I believe in a God like being that created what we see, what we are, and what we experience. The dynamics of that God mysterious, and unknown what details or history there are in relation to this God.

What follows is experts from the web page.

http:// thecreationfallacy.blogspot. com/
PREFACE:
God is nothing more then an unreasonable, unproven, idea. Manufactured by the mind, and now disassembled by the mind...


Design paradox:
Humans use intelligent design to create things, the universe does not. Natural selection is a vast program, running in the universe, with the laws of physics on a quantum level. It's an anti-chance process that can build incredibly complex things whose end product fit very well with the environment. Which to the outside observer can be utterly baffling, until you spot the gentle ramp that leads up to it. Advanced Intelligence comes late into the universe as the product of evolution, of gradual escalation from simple beginnings, and therefore cannot be responsible for designing it. Evolution disproves an intelligent designer.


Evidence paradox:
To believe in something with no evidence is to believe in anything. If there was a supernatural deity that created the entire universe there would be mountains of evidence and reason for it, but there is no less evidence to show that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists than there is to show that God exists. There is therefore no more reason to believe in God than there is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Lack of evidence disproves all supernatural deity's.


Evil paradox:
Creationists say god is all-knowing, all-powerful, and caring. But if so then why did 300 million people(many of them babies) die painfully last century from smallpox? Either...
1. He doesn't know when evil is going to happen: then he's not all-knowing.
2. He doesn't have the ability to stop evil: then he's not all-powerful.
3. He doesn't want to stop evil: then he's not caring.
There are no believers in foxholes. The existence of evil disproves an omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent god.


Bible paradox:
The bible is full of contradictions: Link
Not studying the evidence or evolution is mentally lazy. The bible says laziness is a sin. Jesus(god) let his own creation (which he knew would) kill him. That's assisted suicide, a sin. Thou shall not kill... unless it's in the name of religion. The endless contradictions within the bible disproves the holy spirit.

FAQ:
Q: Do atheists hate god, is that why their so arrogant?
A: No, the truth just happens to contradict god, your mistaking their intellectual honesty for arrogance.
Q: Aren't atheists actually agnostics since they cannot utterly prove god doesn't exist?
A: If so then we're all tooth fairy agnostics.
Q: If god isn't real why does everybody believe in it?
A: Everybody doesn't:
-There's just as many atheists in America as people in all of Canada.
-There's entire atheistic religions: Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism.
-There's entire atheistic countries: Japan, China, and the Scandinavian countries.
-Atheistic nations have the lowest crime rates.
-Many intelligent scientists are atheists.
-But many do believe in god, this is the same type that used to believe the earth was flat.
Q: Doesn't the bible prove that god exists?
A: NO, that's based on assuming something to be true(god exists), then using that assumption as fact to prove another assumption(bible is word of god) and using the "proved" assumption to prove your original assumption(god exists). This is circular reasoning, which is false.
Q: What if you're wrong and god does exist?
A: Even if it was true your god would be one of 5000, which only gives you a 0.0002% chance of being right. So I ask what if you're wrong? - Link
Q: Doesn't evil exists because god gave us the ability to choose, and we choose to sin?
A: It's ridiculous to say an all-knowing all-powerful god would create faulty humans, and then blame them for his mistakes!
Q: Don't people just believe in evolution so they can sin?
A: Millions of upstanding moral people understand evolution.
Q: Isn't evolution is just a theory?
A: No, it's an observable fact. There's plenty of evidence and reason that makes it true!
Q: If there's no god what reason is there to live?
A: There is all the more reason, this is your one chance, make every moment count!
Q: Isn't using science for morals a bad idea?
A: There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable.