Quote Originally Posted by MMI View Post
So which is cyber sex? Is it just obtaining basic relief by wanking to an erotic picture or scene or by having some sub talk dirty ... or by making the sub masturbate him/herself? Or is it something else, fulfilling. arousing and completely free of any need to exchange body fluids, or do anything else with them?

Warbaby, I do agree with your sentiments. I simply feel that BDSM is sex focused. Even making a sub wear specific clothes ... the "whoelsome swimsuits" mentioned elsewhere, for example ... can be sexual, by deliberately making her (in that case) suppress her sexuality. I could be turned on by making someone do that.
I'm not going to try to answer which or what cyber sex is. That could be a whole new topic.

I want to make it clear that I am not saying that BDSM is not sexual or, as you say, sex focused. I have always known, felt and believed that to be true. I am saying that even though it is on line and no actual sex is involved between the two partners does not make the submission, control, or BDSM activities any less real. I just don't know how to say it any clearer.